Eleanor Dallaway and Graham Cluley have more in common than you'd think...They both reside in Oxfordshire, both host infosec podcasts and write about infosec happenings, and have a shared disdain (to put it mildly) of Piers Morgan. Their views on feeling the sand between their toes, however, are polar opposite, as you'll find out...

Eleanor asks Graham all the big questions: Do you consider yourself an infosec celeb? Did you panic buy petrol? Why on earth are you taking distress flairs to a beautiful tropical island?

Food & Drink Podcast Pairing Recommendation by Graham: San Pellegrino sparkling water accompanied by some Jacob's cream crackers and gorgeous blue cheese