In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong sits down with Frank Van Gansbeke — co-founder of the Beyond Bretton Woods (BBW) Initiative, Executive Scholar in Residence at Middlebury College, and former senior executive with over 30 years of experience in corporate finance and capital markets — to explore one of the most fundamental questions in regenerative investing: why does our global financial system still make it more profitable to destroy nature than to restore it, and what would it take to change that?

Shaped by deep experience in global banking, the 2008 financial crisis, the defence of the euro in 2012, and a decade of teaching finance at Middlebury College, Frank brings a rare combination of insider knowledge and systemic critique. Through the Beyond Bretton Woods Initiative — a global think tank co-founded at COP26 with James Vaccaro and currently co-writing a book with Professor Jon Isham — Frank and a network of 50 global thinkers are articulating an array of recommendations to redesign the international financial architecture for the 21st century.

Together, they explore the three fault lines of our current financial system — an outdated value paradigm, a global power imbalance, and systemic risk agnosticism — and what it would mean to fix them. From natural capital as central bank-eligible collateral and indigenous communities as custodians of global commons, to the role of price signals, the Tropical Forever Forest Facility, and the limits of GDP as a metric of wealth, this conversation maps the architecture of a financial system that places people, nature, and long-term wellbeing at its centre.

▶️Rewiring Global Finance: Natural Capital, Central Banks & the Beyond Bretton Woods Initiative

00:00:00  The Amazon Trade-Off: Why It Still Pays More to Fell a Tree Than to Save It

00:01:32  Introducing Frank Van Gansbeke & the Beyond Bretton Woods Initiative

00:04:27  80 Years On: The Three Fault Lines of Our International Financial Architecture

00:09:11  Theory of Change: Bottom-Up Recommendations & Top-Down Engagement

00:13:51  Frank’s Journey: From Global Banking to Regenerative Finance

00:19:09  Teaching Finance in a Polycrisis: Hope, Diagnosis & the Next Generation

00:23:28  How the Outdated Value Paradigm Shapes Investment Origination

00:29:21  Indigenous Communities as Natural Capital Custodians

00:32:20  Valuing Natural Capital: From Satellite Mapping to Central Bank Collateral

00:42:44  Building Blocks & What Still Needs to Be Developed

00:49:17  The Tropical Forever Forest Facility & In Right Relationship

00:52:33  Beyond GDP: Holistic Wealth, Shorter Work Weeks & Purpose-Driven Economies

00:59:08  Solidarity, the Loss & Damage Fund & the Values We’ve Lost

01:00:39  Magic Wand: Using Central Bank Price Signals to Redirect Capital

Notable Quote:

“We have a system that favors harm and pollution at a very low cost, and healing or regeneration at a very high cost. We need a pricing equation that makes an investor at least indifferent between letting a tree stand tall — and felling it.” — Frank Van Gansbeke

Connect with Guest:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/frank-van-gansbeke-48199918/

💻 Website: https://www.beyondbrettonwoods.org/

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong sits down with Keiron Brand, nature finance expert and practitioner and former Nature Lead at Barclays Investment Bank, to unpack one of the biggest questions in sustainable finance today: how do we make nature-positive investments bankable and scalable?

Drawing from his experience across finance, firefighting, WWF, and global investment markets, Keiron shares how nature is shifting from a niche sustainability topic into a core financial issue tied directly to risk, resilience, and long-term value creation.

Together, they explore what sets nature-positive investing apart from more established asset classes—from emerging nature markets and blended finance to transaction costs, regulation and the role of local communities. Through a systems-thinking lens, they examine how large financial institutions and investors, digital tools, enabling policy and new, sometimes non-traditional partnerships can help overcome these barriers and bring nature finance to scale.

▶️ Making Nature Bankable: Rethinking Finance to Scale Nature-Positive Investment

00:00:00 From Firefighter to Nature Finance - Keiron Brand

00:01:07  Introducing Keiron Brand: Nature Finance Expert & Practitioner

00:04:20  Nature as Investment Opportunity & Financial Risk: A New Paradigm

00:09:46  Why Institutional Investors Are Key to Scaling Nature Finance

00:13:05  The Investment Lifecycle for Nature-Positive Projects

00:18:17  From Shell & WWF to Barclays and Beyond Finance: Keiron's Path in Nature Finance

00:22:26 From Opportunity to Investment: How Nature Investment Deals Are Originated & Structured

00:27:31  Connecting Nature Ventures with Impact Investors and DFIs

00:31:54  Why Current Financial Instruments Fall Short for Nature Regeneration

00:38:33  Nature Credits, Biodiversity Net Gain & Lessons from Carbon Markets

00:42:46  Patient Capital, Blended Finance & Non-Traditional Partnerships

00:48:08  Scaling Nature Finance: Regulation, Open Data & Global Cooperation

Notable Quote:

“ Nature is not a niche topic anymore. It's really about how nature underpins long-term value in investments and assets, and how degradation translates into financial risk. [...] It is a fundamental part of any business model today.” - Keiron Brand

Connect with Keiron:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/keiron-brand/ 

💻 Relevant report: https://wwf.panda.org/wwf_news/?364413/Blueprints-for-bankable-nature-solutions-to-help-tackle-nature-and-climate-crises 

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

En este episodio de Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong conversa con Andrea Yáñez, directora ejecutiva del Fondo Agua Somos, y Martha Ruby Falla González, directora de sostenibilidad corporativa de Postobón y miembro de la junta directiva de Agua Somos, para explorar cómo los fondos de agua se han convertido en plataformas de acción colectiva capaces de transformar la gestión hídrica en Colombia y Latinoamérica.

Con más de una década liderando el Fondo Agua Somos en la cuenca del Magdalena, Andrea explica cómo una plataforma multisectorial puede articular empresa privada, comunidades, ciencia e instituciones públicas alrededor de una sola misión: la seguridad hídrica. Por su parte, Martha comparte cómo Postobón, una empresa cuya materia prima fundamental es el agua, pasó de gestionar riesgos endógenos a dimensionar y actuar sobre riesgos exógenos, y por qué la licencia social de operación se ha vuelto tan estratégica como el VPN de cualquier proyecto. Una conversación sobre inversión de largo aliento, gobernanza comunitaria, beneficio volumétrico y lo que significa, en la práctica, invertir en la regeneración de cuencas y el ciclo del agua. 

▶️ Fondos de Agua: Agua Somos, Acción Colectiva y Colaboración Público-Privada para Regenerar Cuencas 

00:00:37  Introducción: Andrea Yáñez y Martha Ruby Falla González

00:03:07  ¿Qué es el Fondo Agua Somos? Misión, sectores e inversión en territorio

00:05:11  Cómo el fondo transformó la gestión de riesgos hídricos en Postobón

00:08:54  Trayectorias: ser feminista, ambientalista y realista en la empresa privada

00:15:08  Los fondos de agua en Latinoamérica: modelo, alianzas y gobernanza

00:17:42  Planificación estratégica del fondo: ciencia, territorio y flexibilidad al 2030

00:19:57  Criterios de inversión corporativa: pertinencia, efectividad y sostenibilidad

00:30:24  Financiamiento del fondo: siete mecanismos e inversión colectiva

00:40:03  Retos y oportunidades: tecnología, greenwashing y empresas medianas

00:43:46  Participación empoderada: comunidades como corazón del diseño

00:47:09  Éxito, escala y licencia social de operación

00:49:03  Equilibrio dinámico: estandarización vs. contexto local

00:51:28  Pregunta final: si tuvieran la varita mágica, ¿qué pedirían?

Conecta con Martha:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marthafalla/

💻 Website: https://www.postobon.com/

Conecta con Andrea:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrea-y%C3%A1%C3%B1ez-ariza-21595926b/ 

💻 Website: https://fondoaguasomos.com/

Conecta con Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/

In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong sits down with Sidney Cano - serial regenerative entrepreneur, investor, innovator, and lifelong researcher of regenerative investing - to explore one of the most profound paradigm shifts in finance today: the transition from investments in regeneration to truly regenerative investing.

Drawing on nearly 15 years of experience in business innovation, entrepreneurship, and investing - and grounded in hands-on experimentation with syntropic agriculture, watershed restoration, and community finance in Mexico - Sidney unpacks why investing is not a transaction but a continuum, why there is no such thing as regenerative projects (only regenerative work within living systems), and how finance, when placed in right relationship with economy and investing, can become a force for the emergence of economies of life. From care holders to co-investors, from financial structures to evolving ecosystems, this conversation challenges everything we think we know about where money should go, and why.

▶️ From Impact Investing to Regenerative Investing: Co-Investing with Living Systems

00:00:00  Introduction to Investing in Regeneration

00:01:10  Introducing Sidney Cano: Regenerative Entrepreneur & Lifelong Researcher

00:03:12  The Paradigm Shift: From Investments in Regeneration to Regenerative Investing

00:06:16  Syntropic Agriculture, Living Systems & the Role of the Co-Investor

00:13:00  Why Investors Must Humble Down and Learn With Nature

00:16:29  Sidney's Journey: From Education to Regenerative Investing

00:24:39  The Nested Framework: Economy, Investing & Finance

00:33:22  Deal Origination Reimagined: From Stakeholders to Care Holders

00:36:53  The Acatlan Case: Farmers, Digital Nomads & Regenerative Co-Investment

00:47:04  Lake Chapala: A Long-Term Watershed Regeneration Investment

00:52:41  How Regenerative Investment Structures Differ from Traditional Deals

00:58:03  Removing Finance from the Center of Decision-Making

00:59:04  What One Shift Would You Drive Tomorrow?

Notable Quote:

“We have to remove financing from the center of all our decision-making. The decision-making has to come from the understanding of our right relationship with the ecosystems — and then bring in financing resources in the right position and the right time. Because you can have tons of money and still have no life.” — Sidney Cano

Connect with Sidney:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidney-cano-1b0a1813/

💻 Substack: Towards an Economy of Life 

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong sits down with Stephen Hart, Principal Advisor for Nature and Water at the European Investment Bank (EIB), to explore the evolution of nature and climate adaptation finance in Europe.

Drawing on his experience leading the Natural Capital Finance Facility (NCFF), Stephen reflects on more than a decade of experimentation in biodiversity finance, nature-based solutions, and water resilience investments. Together, they unpack what worked, what did not, and why financing nature requires much more than innovative financial instruments.

From funding gaps and ecosystem services to nature credits, water resilience, and landscape-scale restoration, this conversation explores the structural changes needed to move nature finance from isolated success stories to mainstream investment.

▶️ Nature Finance at Scale: Lessons from Europe’s Natural Capital Finance Facility

00:00:00 Introduction to Investing in Regeneration

00:04:06 The Origins and Theory of Change Behind the NCFF

00:13:11 From Financial Engineering to Funding Fundamentals

00:18:05 Expanding the Scope of Nature Investments

00:22:28 Stephen’s Journey into Nature and Finance

00:28:42 How Nature and Adaptation Investments Are Sourced

00:37:16 Financing Nature: Lessons from the NCFF Structure

00:48:10 Building Revenue Models for Nature Restoration

00:50:51 Reducing Transaction Costs in Ecosystem Restoration

00:55:06 Measuring Success Beyond Financial Returns

01:00:16 The Limits of Traditional Banking for Nature

01:02:55 Balancing Nature Restoration, Climate Adaptation, and Human Needs

01:08:28 What Needs to Change to Finance Nature at Scale

Notable Quote:

“When we say we're investing in nature, you can say we're trying to, at the end of this, create biodiversity, create biological growth, or connectivity, but the investing level ultimately comes down to a social and economic level that lies on top of it. That is really where you can create things that were not there before.” - Stephen Hart

Connect with Stephen:

📱 LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/stephen-d-hart 

💻 Website: https://www.eib.org/en/stories/climate-change-biodiversity

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

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In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong sits down with Ana Carolina Argolo, Director at Brazil’s National Water and Sanitation Agency (ANA), to explore one of the most ambitious institutional reforms in Latin America’s infrastructure sector: Brazil’s new water and sanitation framework.

Together, they unpack how Brazil is moving from a fragmented and uncertain system toward a coordinated, investment-oriented model designed to achieve universal access to safe drinking water and sanitation by 2033. Ana explains how regulatory clarity, regional coordination, and long-term planning are helping unlock billions in private investment while strengthening public accountability, social inclusion, and environmental resilience. 

From public-private collaboration to place-based investment blueprints, this episode reveals why water governance -by bringing all actors in right relationship with each other- is ultimately about building institutions capable of sustaining long-term resilience beyond political cycles. 

▶️ Brazil’s Water & Sanitation Reform: Building Universal Access Through Governance & Investment

00:00:00 Introduction to Investing in Regeneration

00:05:59 Brazil’s New Water & Sanitation Framework

00:09:18 The Role of the Private Sector in Universal Access

00:12:09 The Theory of Change Behind the Reform

00:15:08 Ana’s Journey into Water Governance

00:20:43 Coordinating Stakeholders Across the Investment Cycle

00:25:25 ANA’s Expanded Regulatory Mandate

00:30:44 Lessons Learned from Six Years of Reform

00:34:35 Financing Models, PPPs & Investment Structures

00:41:30 Water, Human Dignity & Economic Resilience

00:46:05 Standardizing Principles Without Homogenizing Realities

00:50:38 Beyond the Public vs Private Debate

Notable Quote:

“ Brazil is a continental country with very unequal realities, so implementing capacity is still uneven across the regions in Brazil. But what is also important is that the sector now has a clearer direction, a stronger institutional coordination, and long-term targets that are helping to align public and private actors around a common agenda.” - Ana Carolina Argolo

Connect with Ana:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ana-carolina-argolo/ 

💻 Website: https://www.gov.br/ana/en 

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

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In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong is joined by Nancy Santullo, founder of Rainforest Flow, and Samuel Schwan, board president and philanthropist, to explore a powerful, place-based model delivering clean water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) services to indigenous communities in the Peruvian Amazon.

What begins as access to clean water evolves into something much deeper: improved health, strengthened social cohesion, empowered communities, and healthy forest and freshwater ecosystems that ensue. Nancy and Samuel share how a community-driven, culturally integrated approach, built over 20+ years, has not only reduced disease dramatically but also fostered cooperation, local ownership, and long-term sustainability.

▶️ How Community-Driven WASH Systems Transform Health, Ecosystems & Social Cohesion

00:00:00 Introduction to Investing in Regeneration

00:04:06 The Rainforest Flow Model: Water, Sanitation & Community Ownership

00:09:32 Theory of Change and Paradigm Shifts

00:16:31 The Birth of Rainforest Flow

00:23:17 Samuel’s Journey: Emergency Response to Philanthropy

00:26:48 Designing Resilient, Adaptive Water Systems

00:33:17 Barriers to Scaling: Policy, Procurement & Investment

00:40:10 Funding: Philanthropy, Fees & Long-Term Sustainability

00:49:15 Climate Resilience and Portable Infrastructure Design

00:52:47 Participation, Ownership & Indigenous Leadership

00:59:19 Bottlenecks: Investment in Ecosystems vs. People

01:04:10 Lessons for Scaling Regenerative Infrastructure

Notable Quotes:

“Clean water is the entry point, but transformation is the outcome.” - Nancy Santullo

“The results don't line up with what you're hoping for when you don't meet people where they're at, listen to them, and work with them throughout the entire process. I think that's the Rainforest Flow success model.” - Samuel Schwan

Connect with Nancy & Samuel:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nancysantullo/  

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-schwan-b9753a338/ 

💻 Website: https://rainforestflow.org/ 

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

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In this episode of Investing in Regeneration, Mónica Altamirano de Jong sits down with Illya Azaroff—architect, educator, disaster responder, and President of the American Institute of Architects—to explore how regenerative design can transform the way we plan, finance, and build for a climate-challenged world.

They explore the evolving role of architects as systems thinkers and conveners, capable of bridging communities, ecosystems, and finance. From indigenous knowledge to ecosystem services, from long-term trust to financial fear, this conversation reveals what it takes to move from sustainable projects to regenerative systems.

▶️ President of the American Institute of Architects: The Role of Architects as Systems Thinkers  and Conveners Bridging Communities, Ecosystems & Finance

00:00:00 Introduction to Investing in Regeneration

00:04:32 Architects as Systems Thinkers and Conveners

00:14:08 Personal Journey and Purpose

00:18:31 Investment Planning and  Urban Transformation Processes

00:29:22 From Planning to Implementation

00:37:50  How Do You Conceptualize and Measure Resilience Impacts? 

00:44:32 Empowering Participation: The Key Role of Indigenous Communities

00:49:41 Regenerative Economies and Circular Systems

00:59:01 Where Breakthrough Is Needed

Notable Quote:

“The way that we're doing our work, the teams we're doing our work with, and the type of outcome that we are seeing come forward has never been built on this planet ever. That is what regenerative design is. You're seeing things that no one has ever done before.” - Illya Azaroff

Connect with Illya:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/illya-azaroff-faia-3b11b08/  

💻 Website: https://www.aia.org/  

Connect with Monica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

This episode was produced by Ideablossoms

Welcome to the Investing in Regeneration podcast with Mónica Altamirano de Jong. In each episode, Mónica will be going beyond theory and exploring a real initiative, fund, or investment through three lenses: understanding, planning, and financing. 

In this episode, Mónica sits down with Valeria Ramundo Orlando, co-founder of Green Square Ventures, to explore the Equilibrium Climate Capital Fund.

Valeria shares why climate adaptation is not just a risk mitigation strategy but one of the greatest investment opportunities of our time. Together, they explore how private equity can be used not to extract value, but to build companies, strengthen local economies, and future-proof communities.

▶️ Investing in Climate Adaptation: How Private Equity Can Build Companies & Future-Proof Communities

00:00:00 Introduction to Investing in Regeneration

00:03:50 The Equilibrium Climate Capital Fund

00:12:05 The Origin Story: From Data to Decision

00:20:26 The Role of Partnerships

00:32:17 Private Equity Over Credit

00:38:09 Competing with Global Capital Markets

00:42:25 Empowering Local Agency Through Investment

00:50:24 Balancing Local Context with Scalable Finance

00:59:24 Building a Fund That Must Succeed

01:01:38 Fixing the System with two magic wands

Notable Quote from Episode 1: Investing in Climate Adaptation

“We wanted to mainstream adaptation and resilience. We don't want it to be something that is challenging or hard to do. It needs to become something that every single company will build with resilient guidelines, with tools, with the technology that is needed to future proof all assets, infrastructure, and services.” - Valeria Ramundo Orlando

Connect with Valeria:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/valeria-ramundo-orlando-1796053/ 

💻 Website: https://greensquare-ventures.com/ 

Connect with Mónica

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/ 

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/ 

This episode was produced by Ideablossoms

Welcome to Investing in Regeneration, a podcast about changing how we understand, plan, and finance projects, so that finance becomes a driver for better decisions, not just the last step in the process.

Hosted by Mónica Altamirano de Jong, each episode unpacks a real deal or initiative through three lenses: understanding, planning, and financing — bringing together the people who originate deals, structure the finance, and make regenerative investment happen on the ground.

The real bottleneck isn't capital. It's how investments are originated, structured, and brought to bankability.

This podcast exists to change that.

▶️ What you'll hear in this trailer:

Voices from the first episodes — on climate adaptation, regenerative design, private equity, indigenous knowledge, and the financial systems that can either hold us back or move us forward to a better future.

Connect with Mónica:

📱 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/altamiranomonicaa/

💻 Website: https://altamira-regen.com/

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