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Immigration detention is supposed to be civil not punishment.

 But across the U.S., immigrants are being held in jail-like conditions under a patchwork of outdated and inconsistent standards, many without ever being charged with a crime.

In this episode, Joa pulls back the curtain on a system designed to look like bureaucracy but feel like incarceration. We explore how ICE contracts with private prisons and local jails, how per-bed payments create financial incentives to detain more people, and why detainees experience drastically different treatment depending on where they're held.

We also trace the language and policies that make it easy to ignore this injustice and who profits from our silence.

What You’ll Learn

• Why ICE detention isn’t supposed to be punitive—but often is
• What the PBNDS and NDS standards are, and why they matter
• How local governments and corporations profit from detaining immigrants
• The role of dehumanizing language in public apathy
• Why this system isn’t broken—it’s working exactly as intended

Resources Mentioned

• ICE Detention Standards Overview (official)
• Appendix: ICE Detention Facilities & Assigned Standards
• DHS Office of Inspector General Report on Oversight Failures
• American Bar Association Detention Guide for Practitioners
• “Cultish” by Amanda Montell – on groupthink, misinformation, and language as power

Call to Action

• Share this episode with someone who thinks immigration detention is just “processing.”
• Ask your local representatives if your county jail has a contract with ICE (search: IGSA).
• Support organizations working to end immigration detention and expose profit motives, like Detention Watch Network, Freedom for Immigrants, and ACLU Immigrants' Rights Project.

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