Conan, Esquire joins me to discuss how and what and when to read, watch, and write things. We talk about some of his favorite stories, the needless divide between nerds and jocks, and the importance of a fully integrated life. We talk about marriage, fatherhood, and finishing our work. We discuss losers like George R. R. Martin and Patrick Rothfuss and winners like J.R.R. Tolkien and Robert Howard.