On Ep. 88 of Infinite Jungle, Christine interviews Camila Russo, the founder of The Defiant and author of The Infinite Machine. Christine speaks with Camila about how she started The Defiant, a news site that specializes in covering major developments in decentralized finance and on-chain activity. Christine also speaks with Camila about her views on Ethereum’s value and recent organizational changes in the Ethereum Foundation. Christine and Camila discuss concerns about Ethereum’s rollup-centric roadmap and the value accrual mechanisms for ETH considering the migration of user activity to L2s.

Guest:

Name: Camila Russo

Title: The Founder of The Defiant and Author of The Infinite Machine

X: https://x.com/CamiRusso

Show note links:

Timestamps:

(00:00:56) The Defiant is independently owned

(00:03:39) How the Defiant is going on-chain

(00:10:23) Cami’s ETHDenver 2025 takeaways

(00:18:32) Ethereum’s two main problems

(00:31:01) The most promising Ethereum competitors

(00:39:03) Why ETH is gas or sound money but not both

(00:43:26) Cami’s take on recent changes in the EF

This episode was recorded on Friday, March 14, 2025.

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