The brothers welcome to the show the Palestinian theologian and pastor Munther Isaac to discuss Palestinian Christianity in the context of the depravity of the Gaza genocide, the theology of empire, the anti-Palestinian distortions in both so-called Christian Zionism and liberal Western Chrisian churches, the urgent need for rethinking the meaning of witness and the need for global intervention because of the horrors of the Gaza genocide, as well as his recent book Christ in the Rubble: Faith, the Bible, and the Genocide in Gaza (2025).

Date of recording: August 19, 2025.

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