Ladies in PJ's

Is God Middle Class? (Lee’s Story – Part Two)


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In Part Two of our conversation with Lee Giles, the questions get bigger… and a little more uncomfortable (in the best possible way).

We move beyond the story and into the exploration.

Is church or any organised space necessary for a spiritual life?
Or can we encounter God (or something beyond ourselves) in other places… on a walk, up a hill, in the quiet moments we don’t always plan for?

Lee shares his reflections on navigating faith without certainty, and what it means to hold space for wonder rather than answers. We talk about those seasons where everything feels unclear — and the quiet reassurance that, whether you believe or not, you’re not as alone in it as you might feel.

We also explore the realities of church, class, and culture and how to balance different perspectives without losing connection. Because maybe part of the journey is learning how to disagree… agreeably.

✨ Thoughtful, honest, and gently challenging this is a conversation about letting go of certainty and leaning into something deeper.

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Ladies in PJ'sBy Holly Gorbeck and Tre Murrell