Can human innovation stop climate change, or will it simply manage and delay the challenges it poses? In the second of this mini podcast series featuring Bjorn Lomborg and Matt Ridley, host Kate Andrews discusses with Bjorn and Matt whether their optimism is misplaced.

Bjorn Lomborg is the President of the Copenhagen Consensus Center and author of False Alarm.

Matt Ridley is a Conservative peer, journalist, and author of How Innovation Works.

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