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What if the game isn’t solved? What if the best player alive right now… is a 25-year-old Brit who just soul-read me on the river with ace-queen high?

In this episode I sit down with Owen “Pr0digy” Messere—aka possibly the #1 heads-up no limit player in the world—and dig deep into the real layers of high-stakes poker. We talk population exploits, psychological warfare, the art of range betting vs chaos, and what actually separates the elite from the elite-elite.

Also… we go off-script. Spiritual scripts. Life as a game. EV as a compass for living. The war between safe strategy and liberating aggression—on and off the felt.

There’s a lot in here. The poker world may never be the same. But maybe that’s the point. Let the real games begin.

Chapters:

00:00 - Intro: Meet Owen 'Pr0digy' Messere & His Dominant Win

02:00 - Owen's Edge: Exploiting Players & Why Tricks Have Long Shelf Lives

03:22 - Legendary Hand: Owen's Ace-High Soul Read on Jungleman

08:14 - Deep Diving on Opponents: Studying Stefan, Solti & Berri Sweet

15:06 - Battling the Aggro Kings: Davy Jones & Flushy

19:21 - Playing Linus: A More "Sensible" (Boring?) Game

21:30 - The Meta Game: Playing Spicy, Getting Action & Private Games

24:01 - Poker Mindset: Long-Term Thinking, Calculated Risks & Life Parallels

28:40 - Is the Poker Dream Alive? Finding Edges Beyond Solvers

33:20 - Exploiting Off-Script Mistakes & Flawed Range Construction

41:57 - Strategy Talk: Range Betting vs Polarized & NLHE vs PLO

49:10 - Poker Skills in Life & Owen's Coaching for Profit (CFP)

55:10 - Sharing Strategy vs Protecting High-Stakes Edges

01:00:50 - Dan's Goal: Using Poker for Something Greater

01:02:00 - Who is the Best NLHE Player? Owen Names His Rivals

01:05:06 - The Spirituality Deep Dive: Logic, Game Theory & Ancient Wisdom

01:21:40 - Final Thoughts & The Jungleman vs Pr0digy Challenge!

01:22:26 - Outro

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Owen might be the best in the world right now. What do you think?