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The Comparison Game
Rolling Stoneâs list of the 100 Greatest Drummers placed Ringo Starr at number 14. John Bonham topped the list at number 1. Keith Moon came in at number 2.
On paper, that ranking makes sense. Bonham was a madman, a force of natureâthunderous, improvisational, playing like he was teetering on the edge of a cliff. Dave Grohl spent years in his bedroom trying to emulate Bonhamâs swing and behind-the-beat swagger. âNo one has come close to that since,â Grohl wrote, âand I donât think anybody ever will.â
Keith Moon was chaos personifiedâexplosive, unpredictable, theatrical. He treated the drum kit like an instrument of controlled destruction, abandoning the traditional timekeeper role to become a lead voice in The Whoâs sound.
And Ringo? Ringo was neither of those things. He wasnât trying to be.
This is where the debate gets interesting. For sixty years, a question has followed Ringo Starr like a shadow: Is he actually any good? The question seems absurdâhere is a man who drummed on some of the most important recordings in popular music history, whose fills are instantly recognizable across generations, who was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice.
Hereâs the full list of the Top 13 Drummers who Rolling Stone ranked ahead of Ringo:
* John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
* Keith Moon (The Who)
* Ginger Baker (Cream)
* Neil Peart (Rush)
* Hal Blaine (session drummerâappeared on ~35,000 recordings)
* Clyde Stubblefield and John âJaboâ Starks (James Brown)
* Gene Krupa (jazz legend)
* Steve Jordan (session drummer, The Rolling Stones)
* Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
* Al Jackson Jr. (Booker T. & the M.G.âs, Stax Records)
* Benny Benjamin (Motownâs Funk Brothers)
* Charlie Watts (The Rolling Stones)
* D.J. Fontana (Elvis Presley)
The Buddy Rich Test
If you want to understand how professional drummers view Ringo, start with Buddy Rich.
Rich was a jazz legend, a technical virtuoso, and famously one of the most brutally honest critics in music. He pulled no punches about anyone. When asked about Ringoâs playing, Rich offered what sounds like faint praise: âRingo was adequate, no more than that.â
Coming from Buddy Rich, thatâs actually a compliment.
What Rich understoodâwhat many critics missâis that âadequateâ for the music Ringo was playing meant something very specific. The Beatles werenât a jazz combo requiring improvisation and technical fireworks. They were a pop-rock band creating songs that needed to breathe, to groove, to serve the melody. Ringoâs job wasnât to show off. His job was to make the songs better.
And at that, he was a genius.
Grohl, Keltner, and the Gospel of Feel
Dave Grohl knows something about drumming. The Nirvana and Foo Fighters founder is widely considered one of the finest rock drummers of his generation, often compared to his own heroes: Bonham, Moon, Neil Peart.
When asked to define the âbest drummer in the worldâ for Ringoâs Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tribute, Grohl cut right to the heart of the debate: âIs it someone thatâs technically proficient? Or is it someone that sits in the song with their own feel? Ringo was the king of feel.â
This distinction matters enormously. Technical proficiency is measurableâspeed, precision, complexity. Feel is something else entirely. Itâs knowing what a song needs and providing exactly that, nothing more. Itâs the difference between a drummer who plays a song and a drummer who makes a song work.
Jim Keltner, one of the most revered session drummers in historyâheâs played on everything from John Lennonâs Imagine to Tom Pettyâs Full Moon Feverâput it this way: âEverything Ringo played had such great, deep natural feel. Heâs a song drummer. Guys that sit down and they hear the song and they play appropriately for that song.â
Lupe Flores, who drums for Wild Powwers, made the same point more bluntly: âYour job as a drummer, or any musician, is to serve the songânot yourself. Ringo epitomizes exactly that. Try and replace him with any other drummer, and the Beatles wouldnât have sounded like the Beatles.â
Paul McCartney put it this way: âNot technically the best by a long shot, but for feel and emotion and economy, theyâre always there, particularly Ringo.â
Bonham vs. Moon vs. Ringo: Three Philosophies
To understand Ringoâs place in drumming history, you have to understand what separates him from the drummers typically ranked above him.
John Bonham played like a man possessed. His kick drum was a weapon, his fills were avalanches, and his sense of swingâthat infinitesimal delay behind the beatâgave Led Zeppelinâs music its enormous, lumbering power. Listen to âWhen the Levee Breaksâ and you hear a drummer who dominates the song, who is the song in many ways. Bonhamâs playing demands attention. You canât ignore it any more than you could ignore a thunderstorm.
Keith Moon took a different approach to domination. He abandoned the traditional role of timekeeper entirely, treating his kit as a lead instrument. Moon filled every space, crashed through every quiet moment, and created a wall of percussion that competed with Pete Townshendâs guitar for sonic real estate. His playing was technically messy but emotionally overwhelming. You couldnât take your ears off him.
Ringo did the opposite. He played inside songs rather than on top of them. His fills were economical, his grooves were steady, and his ego was nowhere to be found. You could listen to a Beatles song a hundred times and never think about the drummingâuntil you tried to imagine the song without it and realized the whole thing would collapse.
The Beatles werenât Led Zeppelin or The Who. They were a band built on melody, harmony, and songcraft. A Bonham would have been too showy. A Moon would have been too chaotic. What they needed was exactly what they had: a drummer with impeccable feel who made every song better without drawing attention to himself.
This essay continues below. Click on the title to view on Amazon. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
Very Best Of Ringo
The Quote That Wouldnât Die
âHeâs not even the best drummer in The Beatles.â
Youâve heard it attributed to John Lennon. Everyone has. Itâs become shorthand for Ringo skepticism, a devastating putdown from his own bandmate. Thereâs just one problem: Lennon never said it.
The line was actually delivered by British comedian Jasper Carrott in 1983, three years after Lennonâs death. It was a joke, not a critique. But it stuck because it confirmed what many people already believedâthat Ringo was the lucky one, the affable sad-eyed drummer who happened to be in the right place when the original Beatles drummer, Pete Best, got fired.
The reality is that Lennon continued working with Ringo throughout the 1970s. He wouldnât have done that if he didnât rate him. When the Beatles needed a drummer for their big recording audition with producer George Martin, they insisted on Ringo. When Martin wanted to use a session drummer for âLove Me Do,â the band fought back. Ringo was their man.
The Unorthodox Style
Part of what makes Ringoâs drumming so distinctiveâand so hard to replicateâis that heâs a left-handed drummer playing a right-handed kit.
Think about what that means. When a right-handed drummer executes a fill around the toms, they lead with their right hand, and the sticking flows logically around the kit. Ringo leads with his left hand, crossing over his right, creating patterns that sound and feel different from what any typical drummer would play.
Listen to the opening of âCome Together.â That iconic tom-tom intro is played in an ascending patternâfloor tom to rack tomâbecause Ringo is essentially playing âbackwards.â It shouldnât work. But it absolutely works. You can hear it in the first two seconds and know exactly whoâs playing.
Then thereâs his hi-hat technique. Most drummers play straight up-and-down quarter notes on the hi-hat. Ringo developed whatâs been called the âwindshield wiperâ technique, playing in a figure-eight pattern with the hi-hats slightly open. The result is a sizzling, swinging feel that turned the hi-hat into something almost like a ride cymbal. You can hear it on âI Want to Hold Your Hand,â âPlease Please Me,â and âAll My Lovingââsongs that swing even though theyâre not jazz.
Even when a Beatles song has a straight eighth-note feel, Ringo tends to swing his fills. Listen to âStrawberry Fields Forever.â That unpredictability, that looseness, is intentional. It adds texture and humanity to songs that could otherwise feel mechanical.
The Standout Moments
Ringo himself has named âRainâ as his best Beatles performance, and most critics agree. The 1966 B-side found him moving all around the kit with precision while remaining firmly in the pocketâa technical showcase that still served the song. Itâs the track that proves he could play with complexity when the music called for it.
But some of his most brilliant work is subtler. On âA Day in the Life,â Ringo doesnât just keep timeâhe plays melodically, using his toms to provide counterpoint to Paul McCartneyâs descending bass line. Itâs incredibly difficult to replicate because it requires thinking like a melodic instrumentalist, not just a timekeeper. The drummer as musician.
âTicket to Rideâ showcases what fans call the âRingo shuffleââa wildly swung groove that John Lennon called âone of the earliest heavy-metal records.â If you programmed that beat into a drum machine, it would sound like J Dilla. The wonkiness is the point.
And then thereâs âTomorrow Never Knows,â where Ringoâs lopsided breakbeat essentially invented a new way of thinking about drums in psychedelic music. His unexpected twitching snare pattern emphasizes the songâs feel of psychedelic discombobulation. Itâs not complex, but itâs perfect.
The Son Who Chose Moon
Hereâs where the story takes an unexpected turn.
Zak Starkey, Ringoâs eldest son, grew up to become one of the most respected rock drummers of his generation. But his style is nothing like his fatherâs. Where Ringo is subtle and song-serving, Zak is powerful and aggressive. Where Ringo influenced drummers toward restraint, Zak channels the bombast of classic rock.
The reason is simple: Zakâs primary influence wasnât Ringo. It was Keith Moon.
Moon was Ringoâs best friend and Zakâs godfather. When Zak was a child, Moon would babysit him. âKeith was like an uncle, really,â Zak has said. âWe would just hang out and talk about anythingâgirls, surfing, bands, drums. He was a really fantastic guy to hang out with. He wasnât crazy in any way, except for that look in his eye. I was hanging out with my hero.â
Ringo didnât push Zak toward drums. In fact, he expected his son to become a doctor or lawyer. But when Zak was six years old, he saw The Who perform, and his life changed. He became obsessed with drumming, spending hours listening to Keith Moon, John Bonham, and Billy Cobham. Ringo bought him a Ludwig kit for his eleventh birthday and gave him basic lessons in keeping time, but from there Zak was largely self-taught, developing his skills by playing along with records.
The irony is rich: the son of the most famous âfeelâ drummer in rock history grew up worshipping the most anarchic, technically explosive drummer of the same era.
Two Drummers, Two Legacies
Father and son represent two fundamentally different philosophies of drummingâphilosophies embodied by the two greatest British bands of the 1960s.
Ringo Starr proved that serving the song is its own form of geniusâthat feel, economy, and musicality matter as much as technical virtuosity. He wasnât Bonham. He wasnât Moon. He was something else entirely: a drummer whose restraint made room for melody, whose grooves made songs swing, and whose fills became as recognizable as guitar riffs. He changed what drummers could be in rock music.
Zak Starkey proved that you can honor a legacy without imitating it. He took Keith Moonâs explosive energy and channeled it through his own meticulous precision, filling the biggest shoes in rock drumming while still being himself. His thirty years with The Who validated everything Moon saw in him as a child.
Both approaches are valid. Both require mastery. And both produced some of the most important drumming in rock history.
The Verdict
So is Ringo Starr actually any good?
The question misses the point. Ringo isnât âgoodâ in the sense that John Bonham was goodâtechnically overwhelming, improvisationally brilliant. Heâs good in a different and equally important way: he understood what songs needed and provided exactly that, creating parts that elevated the music without calling attention to themselves.
Dave Grohl understood this. Jim Keltner understood this. Even Buddy Rich, in his backhanded way, understood this.
There are plenty of drummers with chops. There are plenty who can play faster, louder, more impressively. But thereâs only one Ringoâa drummer who made the Beatles sound like the Beatles, who invented a style by playing âwrong,â and whose influence echoes through every drummer whoâs ever chosen the song over the solo.
And thereâs only one Zakâa drummer who grew up in his fatherâs shadow, chose his godfatherâs style instead, and proved himself worthy of both legacies.
The debate about Ringo will probably never end. But anyone whoâs actually listenedâwhoâs heard the swing on âTicket to Ride,â the melodic toms on âA Day in the Life,â the perfect fills on âRainââknows the truth.
He was exactly the drummer the Beatles needed. Which is to say, he was exactly the drummer rock and roll needed.
Peace and love. đ„âïž
By Steve Weber and CassandraThe Comparison Game
Rolling Stoneâs list of the 100 Greatest Drummers placed Ringo Starr at number 14. John Bonham topped the list at number 1. Keith Moon came in at number 2.
On paper, that ranking makes sense. Bonham was a madman, a force of natureâthunderous, improvisational, playing like he was teetering on the edge of a cliff. Dave Grohl spent years in his bedroom trying to emulate Bonhamâs swing and behind-the-beat swagger. âNo one has come close to that since,â Grohl wrote, âand I donât think anybody ever will.â
Keith Moon was chaos personifiedâexplosive, unpredictable, theatrical. He treated the drum kit like an instrument of controlled destruction, abandoning the traditional timekeeper role to become a lead voice in The Whoâs sound.
And Ringo? Ringo was neither of those things. He wasnât trying to be.
This is where the debate gets interesting. For sixty years, a question has followed Ringo Starr like a shadow: Is he actually any good? The question seems absurdâhere is a man who drummed on some of the most important recordings in popular music history, whose fills are instantly recognizable across generations, who was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice.
Hereâs the full list of the Top 13 Drummers who Rolling Stone ranked ahead of Ringo:
* John Bonham (Led Zeppelin)
* Keith Moon (The Who)
* Ginger Baker (Cream)
* Neil Peart (Rush)
* Hal Blaine (session drummerâappeared on ~35,000 recordings)
* Clyde Stubblefield and John âJaboâ Starks (James Brown)
* Gene Krupa (jazz legend)
* Steve Jordan (session drummer, The Rolling Stones)
* Mitch Mitchell (Jimi Hendrix Experience)
* Al Jackson Jr. (Booker T. & the M.G.âs, Stax Records)
* Benny Benjamin (Motownâs Funk Brothers)
* Charlie Watts (The Rolling Stones)
* D.J. Fontana (Elvis Presley)
The Buddy Rich Test
If you want to understand how professional drummers view Ringo, start with Buddy Rich.
Rich was a jazz legend, a technical virtuoso, and famously one of the most brutally honest critics in music. He pulled no punches about anyone. When asked about Ringoâs playing, Rich offered what sounds like faint praise: âRingo was adequate, no more than that.â
Coming from Buddy Rich, thatâs actually a compliment.
What Rich understoodâwhat many critics missâis that âadequateâ for the music Ringo was playing meant something very specific. The Beatles werenât a jazz combo requiring improvisation and technical fireworks. They were a pop-rock band creating songs that needed to breathe, to groove, to serve the melody. Ringoâs job wasnât to show off. His job was to make the songs better.
And at that, he was a genius.
Grohl, Keltner, and the Gospel of Feel
Dave Grohl knows something about drumming. The Nirvana and Foo Fighters founder is widely considered one of the finest rock drummers of his generation, often compared to his own heroes: Bonham, Moon, Neil Peart.
When asked to define the âbest drummer in the worldâ for Ringoâs Rock and Roll Hall of Fame tribute, Grohl cut right to the heart of the debate: âIs it someone thatâs technically proficient? Or is it someone that sits in the song with their own feel? Ringo was the king of feel.â
This distinction matters enormously. Technical proficiency is measurableâspeed, precision, complexity. Feel is something else entirely. Itâs knowing what a song needs and providing exactly that, nothing more. Itâs the difference between a drummer who plays a song and a drummer who makes a song work.
Jim Keltner, one of the most revered session drummers in historyâheâs played on everything from John Lennonâs Imagine to Tom Pettyâs Full Moon Feverâput it this way: âEverything Ringo played had such great, deep natural feel. Heâs a song drummer. Guys that sit down and they hear the song and they play appropriately for that song.â
Lupe Flores, who drums for Wild Powwers, made the same point more bluntly: âYour job as a drummer, or any musician, is to serve the songânot yourself. Ringo epitomizes exactly that. Try and replace him with any other drummer, and the Beatles wouldnât have sounded like the Beatles.â
Paul McCartney put it this way: âNot technically the best by a long shot, but for feel and emotion and economy, theyâre always there, particularly Ringo.â
Bonham vs. Moon vs. Ringo: Three Philosophies
To understand Ringoâs place in drumming history, you have to understand what separates him from the drummers typically ranked above him.
John Bonham played like a man possessed. His kick drum was a weapon, his fills were avalanches, and his sense of swingâthat infinitesimal delay behind the beatâgave Led Zeppelinâs music its enormous, lumbering power. Listen to âWhen the Levee Breaksâ and you hear a drummer who dominates the song, who is the song in many ways. Bonhamâs playing demands attention. You canât ignore it any more than you could ignore a thunderstorm.
Keith Moon took a different approach to domination. He abandoned the traditional role of timekeeper entirely, treating his kit as a lead instrument. Moon filled every space, crashed through every quiet moment, and created a wall of percussion that competed with Pete Townshendâs guitar for sonic real estate. His playing was technically messy but emotionally overwhelming. You couldnât take your ears off him.
Ringo did the opposite. He played inside songs rather than on top of them. His fills were economical, his grooves were steady, and his ego was nowhere to be found. You could listen to a Beatles song a hundred times and never think about the drummingâuntil you tried to imagine the song without it and realized the whole thing would collapse.
The Beatles werenât Led Zeppelin or The Who. They were a band built on melody, harmony, and songcraft. A Bonham would have been too showy. A Moon would have been too chaotic. What they needed was exactly what they had: a drummer with impeccable feel who made every song better without drawing attention to himself.
This essay continues below. Click on the title to view on Amazon. As an Amazon Associate, I earn from qualifying purchases.
Very Best Of Ringo
The Quote That Wouldnât Die
âHeâs not even the best drummer in The Beatles.â
Youâve heard it attributed to John Lennon. Everyone has. Itâs become shorthand for Ringo skepticism, a devastating putdown from his own bandmate. Thereâs just one problem: Lennon never said it.
The line was actually delivered by British comedian Jasper Carrott in 1983, three years after Lennonâs death. It was a joke, not a critique. But it stuck because it confirmed what many people already believedâthat Ringo was the lucky one, the affable sad-eyed drummer who happened to be in the right place when the original Beatles drummer, Pete Best, got fired.
The reality is that Lennon continued working with Ringo throughout the 1970s. He wouldnât have done that if he didnât rate him. When the Beatles needed a drummer for their big recording audition with producer George Martin, they insisted on Ringo. When Martin wanted to use a session drummer for âLove Me Do,â the band fought back. Ringo was their man.
The Unorthodox Style
Part of what makes Ringoâs drumming so distinctiveâand so hard to replicateâis that heâs a left-handed drummer playing a right-handed kit.
Think about what that means. When a right-handed drummer executes a fill around the toms, they lead with their right hand, and the sticking flows logically around the kit. Ringo leads with his left hand, crossing over his right, creating patterns that sound and feel different from what any typical drummer would play.
Listen to the opening of âCome Together.â That iconic tom-tom intro is played in an ascending patternâfloor tom to rack tomâbecause Ringo is essentially playing âbackwards.â It shouldnât work. But it absolutely works. You can hear it in the first two seconds and know exactly whoâs playing.
Then thereâs his hi-hat technique. Most drummers play straight up-and-down quarter notes on the hi-hat. Ringo developed whatâs been called the âwindshield wiperâ technique, playing in a figure-eight pattern with the hi-hats slightly open. The result is a sizzling, swinging feel that turned the hi-hat into something almost like a ride cymbal. You can hear it on âI Want to Hold Your Hand,â âPlease Please Me,â and âAll My Lovingââsongs that swing even though theyâre not jazz.
Even when a Beatles song has a straight eighth-note feel, Ringo tends to swing his fills. Listen to âStrawberry Fields Forever.â That unpredictability, that looseness, is intentional. It adds texture and humanity to songs that could otherwise feel mechanical.
The Standout Moments
Ringo himself has named âRainâ as his best Beatles performance, and most critics agree. The 1966 B-side found him moving all around the kit with precision while remaining firmly in the pocketâa technical showcase that still served the song. Itâs the track that proves he could play with complexity when the music called for it.
But some of his most brilliant work is subtler. On âA Day in the Life,â Ringo doesnât just keep timeâhe plays melodically, using his toms to provide counterpoint to Paul McCartneyâs descending bass line. Itâs incredibly difficult to replicate because it requires thinking like a melodic instrumentalist, not just a timekeeper. The drummer as musician.
âTicket to Rideâ showcases what fans call the âRingo shuffleââa wildly swung groove that John Lennon called âone of the earliest heavy-metal records.â If you programmed that beat into a drum machine, it would sound like J Dilla. The wonkiness is the point.
And then thereâs âTomorrow Never Knows,â where Ringoâs lopsided breakbeat essentially invented a new way of thinking about drums in psychedelic music. His unexpected twitching snare pattern emphasizes the songâs feel of psychedelic discombobulation. Itâs not complex, but itâs perfect.
The Son Who Chose Moon
Hereâs where the story takes an unexpected turn.
Zak Starkey, Ringoâs eldest son, grew up to become one of the most respected rock drummers of his generation. But his style is nothing like his fatherâs. Where Ringo is subtle and song-serving, Zak is powerful and aggressive. Where Ringo influenced drummers toward restraint, Zak channels the bombast of classic rock.
The reason is simple: Zakâs primary influence wasnât Ringo. It was Keith Moon.
Moon was Ringoâs best friend and Zakâs godfather. When Zak was a child, Moon would babysit him. âKeith was like an uncle, really,â Zak has said. âWe would just hang out and talk about anythingâgirls, surfing, bands, drums. He was a really fantastic guy to hang out with. He wasnât crazy in any way, except for that look in his eye. I was hanging out with my hero.â
Ringo didnât push Zak toward drums. In fact, he expected his son to become a doctor or lawyer. But when Zak was six years old, he saw The Who perform, and his life changed. He became obsessed with drumming, spending hours listening to Keith Moon, John Bonham, and Billy Cobham. Ringo bought him a Ludwig kit for his eleventh birthday and gave him basic lessons in keeping time, but from there Zak was largely self-taught, developing his skills by playing along with records.
The irony is rich: the son of the most famous âfeelâ drummer in rock history grew up worshipping the most anarchic, technically explosive drummer of the same era.
Two Drummers, Two Legacies
Father and son represent two fundamentally different philosophies of drummingâphilosophies embodied by the two greatest British bands of the 1960s.
Ringo Starr proved that serving the song is its own form of geniusâthat feel, economy, and musicality matter as much as technical virtuosity. He wasnât Bonham. He wasnât Moon. He was something else entirely: a drummer whose restraint made room for melody, whose grooves made songs swing, and whose fills became as recognizable as guitar riffs. He changed what drummers could be in rock music.
Zak Starkey proved that you can honor a legacy without imitating it. He took Keith Moonâs explosive energy and channeled it through his own meticulous precision, filling the biggest shoes in rock drumming while still being himself. His thirty years with The Who validated everything Moon saw in him as a child.
Both approaches are valid. Both require mastery. And both produced some of the most important drumming in rock history.
The Verdict
So is Ringo Starr actually any good?
The question misses the point. Ringo isnât âgoodâ in the sense that John Bonham was goodâtechnically overwhelming, improvisationally brilliant. Heâs good in a different and equally important way: he understood what songs needed and provided exactly that, creating parts that elevated the music without calling attention to themselves.
Dave Grohl understood this. Jim Keltner understood this. Even Buddy Rich, in his backhanded way, understood this.
There are plenty of drummers with chops. There are plenty who can play faster, louder, more impressively. But thereâs only one Ringoâa drummer who made the Beatles sound like the Beatles, who invented a style by playing âwrong,â and whose influence echoes through every drummer whoâs ever chosen the song over the solo.
And thereâs only one Zakâa drummer who grew up in his fatherâs shadow, chose his godfatherâs style instead, and proved himself worthy of both legacies.
The debate about Ringo will probably never end. But anyone whoâs actually listenedâwhoâs heard the swing on âTicket to Ride,â the melodic toms on âA Day in the Life,â the perfect fills on âRainââknows the truth.
He was exactly the drummer the Beatles needed. Which is to say, he was exactly the drummer rock and roll needed.
Peace and love. đ„âïž