The African Grey is a very clever parrot whose capacity to mimic has made them stars on social media. But has the increased demand for them threatened their survival in the wild? And should wild birds born to fly be sold as pets especially when they often outlive their owners?

Guest: Rene Ebersole, investigative reporter and co-founder of of the non-profit journalism organisation Wildlife Investigative Reporters & Editors (WIRES).

Her article in Rolling Stone can be found here.