After the Reserve Bank’s first rate hike in more than two years, Guardian Australia’s political editor, Tom McIlroy, speaks to the economics editor, Patrick Commins, and Lea Jurkovic, the economics correspondent at the Australian Financial Review, about the indicators that informed the central bank’s decision this week. They also discuss the ongoing vulnerabilities in the economy, the missed opportunities when the RBA doesn’t comment on government spending and the maturity lacking in the political debate about interest rates