In the aftermath of George Floyd’s death - the question of what to do and who should do it is on the minds of every person who is even half aware of what’s going on. Han unpacks what this has meant for Trash, what to do when you get it “wrong”, and Cheraé shares some unexpected places where activism is showing up - hint: it’s in dating apps.

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This week: we discuss the ways to cope with work in a pandemic and how to make a plan with our uncertain future. Plus- we try to make sense of bleach-drinkers, southern states reopening, and more!

Welcome back! This week Han and Cheraé talk about writing pitch decks from the heart, finding your company's true purpose, funny email greetings, and how to use this unusual moment to create, virus and all.

The first episode of It Just Got Real is about as real as it could possibly get. Cheraé shares what it means to be a travel company in the middle of a pandemic. Then, we talk about being true to your purpose, even when everything around you feels precarious. Also what's up in pop culture? The Weeknd album that's what. Spoiler: we may or may not have varying opinions on that record. Welcome to our show!

It Just Got Real is a weekly podcast hosted by two multi-hyphenate founders from different worlds, Hannah Donovan (Trash) and Cheraé Robinson (Tastemakers Africa). Each week features a break through "got real" moment and unpacks the lessons, struggles and wins of choosing the unbeaten path. It Just Got Real is literally happening in real time. If you want to start something new; already have; or just wanna do this thing called life differently, hit subscribe hang out with Han & Cheraé! New episodes every Thursday.