It Was A Sh*t Show

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Recorded Live at FanX, Salt Lake City, September 27, 2024.

For two decades, Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger were locked into one of the most heated rivalries in Hollywood. Being the two biggest action stars of all time, they traded insults, started rumors, and tried one-upping each other in all their movies. Join Cinema Therapy and It Was A Sh*t Show as they discuss the egos at play, how it ugly it got, and the eventual lifelong friendship that came out of it.

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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. Whether it's big egos, bigger budgets, or just plain bad luck, we are going behind-the-scenes on these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.

Sources:

Ain’t It Cool News: https://bit.ly/4fmFJ2a

Fantastic: The Life of Arnold Schwarzenegger: https://bit.ly/3O4WcMr

Hollywood Reporter: https://bit.ly/3UMsYWo

IndieWire: https://bit.ly/4fErmWE

The Last Action Heroes: https://bit.ly/40I75ex

Vulture: https://bit.ly/4fG0aH9

TMZ Presents: Arnold & Sly - Rivals, Friends, Icons

Featured Footage:

Demolition Man (1993)

Last Action Hero (1993)

Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot (1992)

Tango & Cash (1989)

True Lies (1994)

Twins (1988)

Music:

Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

#itwasashtshow #stallone #schwarzenegger

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Making the perfect organism is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make the Alien trilogy, from James Cameron feuding with his British crew on Aliens to David Fincher being micromanaged by Fox on Alien 3.

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Chapters:

00:00 - Intro

00:35 - Dan O’Bannon’s Alien

01:25 - David Giler & Walter Hill’s Rewrite

02:25 - Ridley Scott Boards Alien

03:45 - H.R. Giger’s Xenomorph Design

04:12 - O’Bannon: The Loose Cannon

05:42 - Oxygen, Allergies, & Chestbursters

06:43 - Scott’s Revised Ending(s)

08:08 - Alien Releases May 25, 1979

09:22 - Fox vs Brandywine

09:49 - Brandywine finds James Cameron

11:35 - Cameron’s Money Fights with Fox

13:05 - Scheduling Chaos & James Remar

13:49 - James Cameron vs the British Crew

16:35 - Oxygen, APCs, & James Horner

17:37 - Cutting Ripley’s Arc

18:35 - Aliens Releases July 18, 1986

19:32 - Brandywine’s Many False Starts

21:25 - Vincent Ward’s Wooden Vision

22:50 - Fox Loses Faith Ward’s Alien 3

23:57 - Dealing David Fincher a Bad Hand

25:31 - Fincher’s Endless Fox Problems

27:53 - A Difficult David Fincher

29:10 - Fires, Bullies, & Teaser Trailers

30:14 - The Final Disastrous Pieces

31:37 - Alien 3 Releases May 22, 1992

32:22 - Director Cuts of Each Film

Sources: https://youtu.be/TzJ-38-380I

Music:

Elliot Goldenthal - Alien 3 OST

James Horner - Aliens OST

Jerry Goldsmith - Alien OST

Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

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Losing your star is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make The Crow, from the crew fighting rumors about a cursed film to Brandon Lee’s tragic on-set shooting.

Special Guest: Sequoia Simone (@sequoiasimone) from But Make It Scary (@butmakeitscary)

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Podcast Chapters:

• 00:00 - Intro
• 06:59 - Clint’s Closet
• 08:14 - The Crow (1994)
• 01:26:04 - Follow Ups!

Sources:

• CBR: https://bit.ly/3XVGGXJ
• Cursed Films: https://bit.ly/3BNX2tZ
• Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/4gYAAyu
• Medium: https://bit.ly/4eE8dUC
• Washington Post: https://bit.ly/4ezdhcU

Music:

• Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

#itwasashtshow #thecrow #brandonlee

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Making tornados is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make Twister, from rewriting scenes as they filmed to director Jan de Bont possibly abusing his crew.

Get the longer Director’s Cut version of this episode on Patreon (with 17 extra minutes)!

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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. Whether it's big egos, bigger budgets, or just plain bad luck, we are going behind-the-scenes on these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.

Podcast Chapters:

00:00 - Intro

02:29 - Clint’s Closet

04:18 - Twister (1996)

01:02:21 - Twisters (2024)

01:08:41 - Follow Ups!

Sources:

AV Club: https://bit.ly/4cxXSbc

Desert News: https://bit.ly/3YUmoQE

Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/4dtuFPJ

https://bit.ly/4dGi0Je

https://bit.ly/4dMtQRQ

The Independent: https://bit.ly/4dx6UGu

The Ringer: https://bit.ly/3YTTZtQ

Variety: https://bit.ly/4cO7lLH

Vulture: https://bit.ly/4dOaQT4

https://bit.ly/3SYzXL3

Music:

Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

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Making a sequel when there can be only one is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make Highlander II: The Quickening, from the financial troubles ending production before finishing to the multiple versions of the final film.

Special Guest: Alan Seawright (@alanseawright) from Cinema Therapy (@CinemaTherapyShow)

Get the longer Director’s Cut version of this episode on Patreon (with 24 extra minutes)!

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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. Whether it's big egos, bigger budgets, or just plain bad luck, we are going behind-the-scenes on these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.

Podcast Chapters:

• 00:00 - Intro
• 03:59 - Clint’s Closet
• 04:59 - Highlander (1986)
• 32:52 - Highlander II: The Quickening (1991)

Sources:

• AV Club: https://bit.ly/3LvLcq1
• Cinefantastique: https://bit.ly/3zZWFvq
• Figmentfly: https://bit.ly/4fc7pa6
• HeyUGuys: https://bit.ly/3LxnJF1
• Money Into Light: https://bit.ly/4d4DPBK
• Press & Journal: https://bit.ly/4fcdHqi
• Reddit: https://bit.ly/3YbusvK
• The Telegraph: https://bit.ly/3zPZa3u

Music:

• Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

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Making a sequel to The Avengers is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make Avengers: Age of Ultron, from writer/director Joss Whedon caving to his own ambitions, to the Marvel Creative Committee forcing him to make changes.

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Sources:

• Birth.Movies.Death.: https://bit.ly/3RCkIpJ
• BuzzFeed: https://bit.ly/3ts2v5U
• https://bit.ly/3TD41wG
• Collider: https://bit.ly/46TtHIs
• Deadline: https://bit.ly/477dK2z
• Empire: https://bit.ly/3uVUw1t
• Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/41ego4j
• https://bit.ly/3tBY4Wd
• Gizmodo: https://bit.ly/47cl23W
• IGN: https://bit.ly/41BYmZG
• The Independent: https://bit.ly/4adgQUs
• LA Times: https://bit.ly/47TIUdO
• MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios: https://bit.ly/3u9Bvbx
• MTV: https://bit.ly/487Tjm0
• New York Magazine: https://bit.ly/3Rm7LzY
• Polygon: https://bit.ly/3RTieEs
• SlashFilm: https://bit.ly/47h2oIq
• The Story of Marvel Studios: https://bit.ly/46dfEx0
• Vox: https://bit.ly/3tpePnL
• Vulture: https://bit.ly/489ktsL

• Digital Spy: http://y2u.be/pxIfBEQ9IiU
• Nerd HQ: http://y2u.be/Kns2YU5IbCQ
• Oxford Union: http://y2u.be/wPnqzENRToA
• Rotten Tomatoes: http://y2u.be/AvLAqHkx-V8
• Tribeca: http://y2u.be/Fp2iUAVJZvo

Music:

• Danny Elfman & Brian Tyler - Avengers: Age of Ultron OST
• Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

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Motor mouthing your way into places is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make the Beverly Hills Cop movies, from the first one originally starring Sylvester Stallone, to the third film shutting down a month before production.

Get the longer Director’s Cut version of this episode on Patreon (with 18 extra minutes)!

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Podcast Chapters:

• 00:00 - Intro
• 02:01 - Beverly Hills Cop
• 29:07 - Beverly Hills Cop II
• 45:12 - Beverly Hills Cop III
• 01:33:26 - Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F
• 01:40:30 - Follow Ups!

Sources:

• AFI: https://bit.ly/4cHvG62
• Ain’t It Cool News: https://bit.ly/3xB6W0o
• AV Club: https://bit.ly/45Qw9jW
• Collider: https://bit.ly/45SZRVv
• Film School Rejects: https://bit.ly/4cm2PEu
• High Concept: Don Simpson and the Hollywood Culture of Excess: https://bit.ly/3zwV9ki
• LA Times: https://bit.ly/45RNFoa
• https://bit.ly/4bDiYUS
• Martin Scorsese: A Biography: https://bit.ly/3VYY0vd
• Money Into Light: https://bit.ly/4bvytOU
• New York Times: https://bit.ly/3XLZo5F
• https://bit.ly/4cP76jT
• Playboy: https://bit.ly/3xEMN9Q
• The Rich Eisen Show: http://y2u.be/JPVwLjUq7Iw
• Rolling Stone: https://bit.ly/3VEkjEU
• Screenrant: https://bit.ly/4cy5JpS
• Variety: https://bit.ly/4cGK66i
• https://bit.ly/4cFVUG6
• Vulture: https://bit.ly/4eNKBgH
• We Are Cult: https://bit.ly/3zqbzee

Music:

• Harold Faltermeyer - Beverly Hills Cop OST
• Nile Rodgers - Beverly Hills Cop III OST
• Lorne Balfe - Beverly Hills Cop: Axel F OST
• Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

#itwasashtshow #beverlyhillscop #eddiemurphy

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Making the Western Godfather is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make Tombstone, from writer/director Kevin Jarre getting fired four weeks in, to Kurt Russell possibly ghost directing to finish the movie on time.

Get the longer Director’s Cut version of this episode on Patreon (with 20 extra minutes)!

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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. Whether it's big egos, bigger budgets, or just plain bad luck, we are going behind-the-scenes on these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.

Podcast Chapters:

00:00 - Intro

02:10 - Tombstone (1993)

01:25:04 - Follow ups!

Sources:

• Original Script: https://bit.ly/3R8x4pZ
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• Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/3V6kx7y
• https://bit.ly/3Kjz5Mh
• Hollywood Reporter: https://bit.ly/3yzyLX2
• Old West: https://bit.ly/3KFTUBT
• Setting History Straight: https://bit.ly/4dZ66L6
• True West: https://bit.ly/4aJOUqs
• https://bit.ly/3KlsLnj
• Val Kilmer Gallery: https://bit.ly/3VftJaX

• GQ: http://y2u.be/GGHXWF7LeZI
• http://y2u.be/m8vG9v8x8-w
• Inside of You: http://y2u.be/RLjw4czibzQ

Music:

• Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

#itwasashtshow #tombstone #kurtrussell

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Being canceled three times is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to revive Futurama, from the evolution of television over three decades, to Fox (then Disney) undercutting voice actors’ salaries.

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Sources:

AV Club: https://bit.ly/3xejcTZ

CNN: https://bit.ly/3PI66VA

https://bit.ly/4cs6Nfn

Deadline: https://bit.ly/3PIBxiw

Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/3Pvjn3u

https://bit.ly/3PFFYKT

iF Magazine: https://bit.ly/3x61vGf

MovieWeb: https://bit.ly/3wUGvCl

Newsday: https://bit.ly/4a6Jgiq

Hollywood Reporter: https://bit.ly/3TEtX9w

Rotten Tomatoes: https://bit.ly/3PmLZMn

/Film: https://bit.ly/3TzZyJC

SpoilerTV: https://bit.ly/3WKx56W

Splitsider: https://bit.ly/3TB9en0

Statista: https://bit.ly/3QOfsQ5

Time: https://bit.ly/4dxOBS4

Toronto Star: https://bit.ly/3vo7JAB

Variety: https://bit.ly/43pYxbK

https://bit.ly/4coGzuc

https://bit.ly/4cfHYDf

https://bit.ly/4cF3528

https://bit.ly/4cvYaQR

https://bit.ly/3TyAjYd

Wired: https://bit.ly/3TneiLM

https://bit.ly/3xkZRAD

Nerdist: Futurama Live! (2013)

Milwaukee Journal Sentinel: https://t.ly/BOWRm

Music:

Christopher Tying - Futurama OST

Devin Townsend Project - Bend It Like Bender!

Gerald Fried - Fight Music (Star Trek)

Katrina and the Waves - Walking on Sunshine

Pierre Henry - Psyche Rock

Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

#itwasashtshow #futurama #mattgroening

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Making apes talk is hard. Let’s talk about how difficult it was to make the 2001 version of Planet of the Apes, from the likes of James Cameron, Oliver Stone, and Peter Jackson all trying to remake it, to Tim Burton struggling with the time constraints.

Get the longer Director’s Cut version of this episode on Patreon (with 17 extra minutes)!

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In the entertainment world, there are millions of dollars on the line and troubled productions are bound to happen. Whether it's big egos, bigger budgets, or just plain bad luck, we are going behind-the-scenes on these disastrous, never ending, and sometimes dangerous productions. From the creators of WTF Happened To This Movie?, It Was A Sh*t Show is a video essay/documentary/podcast series looking at some of your favorite films and tv shows, and why they were such a nightmare to make.

Podcast Chapters:

• 00:00 - Intro
• 03:00 - Planet of the Apes (1968)
• 14:53 - Planet of the Apes (2001)
• 01:28:49 - Follow ups!

Sources:

• Burton on Burton: https://bit.ly/44FjFeN
• ComingSoon: https://bit.ly/3y2Xgvl
• Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/44iqgLK
• Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/3Qm8guq
• Entertainment Weekly: https://bit.ly/3WmkuGY
• The Guardian: https://bit.ly/3QvMnsF
• LA Times: https://bit.ly/3UAmH09
• LA Times: https://bit.ly/3Uo3v4v
• Peter Jackson: A Film-maker’s Journey: https://amzn.to/44sRUpp
• Tales From Development Hell: https://bit.ly/3QuwqTw
• Variety: https://bit.ly/49VX6Dq

• GQ: http://y2u.be/UzsjMwYJNgI

Music:

• George Andreas & Grant Kirkhope - DK Rap
• Ryan Hudson - Sh*t Show Theme

#itwasashtshow #planetoftheapes #timburton

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