In this episode of Pastor Pastor, Rob invites Wes to share his experience and insight on small group ministry—why it matters, what helps it flourish, and how it functions as a mini church. Wes lays out the role of the leader, the importance of using the time well, and how small groups can foster real discipleship, care, and connection. This conversation offers practical wisdom and a clear reminder that leading a healthy small group takes preparation, intentionality, and a commitment to shepherd well.