Are you tired of feeling like your emotions are running the show? Do you want to learn how to stop crying at every cat video on the internet? Well, you're in luck, because Dr. Nicholas Duck and Dr. Cameron Hawker are here to help you navigate the confusing world of emotions.

This podcast discusses various leaders and whether we think they display emotional intelligence. What do you think about Presidents Obama and Trump? How about Bill Clinton and former Prime Minister Kevin Rudd?

Listen in for Season 4 of It's about nothing!