Brendan sits down with the Justin Bieber of the Spiritual Asshole podcast community, Ellie Bassick-Trovato. She is an incredible, coach, author and founder of The New Brave. The two dive very deep into why worry is an unruly toddler, how to navigate around judgement from others, why everyone needs a safe place to fall apart, the difference between self-love and over indulgence, the thin line between self-love and self-hate, tips for getting out of depression and lots and lots of pulled pork sandwiches. 

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