<p>In this inaugural episode, Carmen and Liz tackle martini lunches, talk swimshirts, and play the classic game: "I know who that is, but who is it?" </p>

In this inaugural episode, Carmen and Liz tackle martini lunches, talk swimshirts, and play the classic game: "I know who that is, but who is it?"

<p>In this inaugural episode, Carmen and Liz tackle martini lunches, talk swimshirts, and play the classic game: "I know who that is, but who is it?"&nbsp;</p>

It's Called Coping

A podcast with Liz Evans and Carmen Carigan. The rock-solid, definitely 'grounded in reality' musings of two Midwestern Gen Z/Millennial Cusp Queens.

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