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In this episode of It’s Elementary, Dr. Jessica LaGrone welcomes Dr. Christine Johnson, Associate Professor of Historical Theology and Wesleyan Studies at Asbury Theological Seminary. Together they explore John Wesley’s profound theology of death and what it means to “die well” in a culture that often avoids the topic. From Wesley’s own struggles with the fear of death to the early Methodists’ reputation for triumphant dying, Dr. Johnson shares insights from her research and her new book, Triumphant Death: Grace, Holiness, and Death in the Theology of John Wesley.

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In this episode of It’s Elementary, Dr. Jessica LaGrone welcomes Dr. Chris Bounds, Professor of Theology at Asbury Theological Seminary, for a rich conversation on one of the most defining themes of the Wesleyan tradition: holiness. Together, they explore why holiness matters, how it is inseparable from love, and what it means to flourish in relationship with God and others. From unpacking the nature of holy love to addressing misconceptions about rules and legalism, Dr. Bounds offers a compelling vision of holiness as deeply relational and life-giving. 

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In this episode of It’s Elementary, Dr. David Watson and Dr. Jessica LaGrone welcome Rev. Andrew Thompson, Lead Pastor at First Methodist Tulsa. Together they explore Andrew’s remarkable journey through 25 years of ministry, his passion for global missions, and his deep commitment to intergenerational discipleship. From learning Spanish to preaching in Latin America, to mentoring younger pastors and staff, Andrew shares how the Holy Spirit continues to shape his calling. The conversation also reflects on the Asbury revival, the beauty of Jesus experienced in worship, and the importance of spiritual mothers and fathers in the life of the church.

This episode blends theology, story, and practical ministry insights—perfect for anyone curious about how faith, mission, and mentoring intersect in today’s church.

Rev. Andrew Thompson – Lead Pastor, First Methodist Tulsa

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Kick off Asbury Theological Seminary's It’s Elementary with a warm welcome from your hosts, Dr. David F. Watson and Dr. Jessica LaGrone! In this introductory episode, they share the heart behind the podcast, what you can expect in future conversations, and why we’re excited to journey with you.

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