It's Not A Ladder

It's Not A Ladder

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  • Episode 11: Letter writing for climate change and Asian-Australian theatre with Eezu Tan

    In this episode, we had the great pleasure of chatting with Eezu Tan. Eezu is a motivated and caring individual who is passionate about building a more sustainable and equitable world.

    She has worked in climate tech as a product manager, and dabbled in tech and start-ups including AWS and WooliesX. She also runs a climate letter writing group from her friend's living room and is a theatre-maker passionate about spotlighting Asian-Australian stories. At university, Eezu studied commerce and arts, with majors in economics and global development, and a minor in theatre. We hope you enjoy listening to Eezu’s journey and insights as much as we did!

    We invite you to reach out to us with any questions, suggestions, or feedback you may have by sending an email to [email protected]. We value your input and will be happy to hear from you.

    Finally, we would like to emphasize that the views expressed by individuals on the podcast are their own, and It's Not A Ladder does not necessarily endorse them. We are committed to creating a platform for healthy discussions and diverse perspectives, and we look forward to having you join us on this journey!


    Check out her latest theatre production and climate letter writing group:

    https://events.humanitix.com/unfair-verona-the-misadventures-of-romeo-and-juliet

    Lu.ma/climate-writers

    42 min
  • Episode 10: Practical job advice, product design @ Atlassian, and navigating startups with Vivian Yu

    In this episode, we talk with Vivian Yu, a product designer at Atlassian who graduated from a Bachelor of Commerce and Advanced Studies at the University of Sydney.

    Join us on this journey as we chat with Vivian about exploring different degrees, making the most out of university, and the event that helped her land the product designer job she does today.

    During her studies, Vivian also got involved in a hackathon and is now working on a web3 blogging startup alongside her full time job. She gives some practical advice for students interested in exploring startups, and says Italy is her next dream destination.

    We invite you to reach out to us with any questions, suggestions, or feedback you may have by sending an email to [email protected]. We value your input and will be happy to hear from you.

    Finally, we would like to emphasize that the views expressed by individuals on the podcast are their own, and It's Not A Ladder does not necessarily endorse them. We are committed to creating a platform for healthy discussions and diverse perspectives, and we look forward to having you join us on this journey!

    56 min
  • Episode 9: It's Not A Ladder with the Three Musketeers

    Welcome to this exciting episode of It's Not A Ladder, where we have the pleasure of introducing ourselves as your hosts! Join us on this journey as we delve into the objectives of the podcast, introduce our wonderful third musketeer, and answer some of the familiar podcast questions ourselves. Our aim is to provide you with a better understanding of what we hope to achieve, who we are, and how you can participate in this wonderful experience.


    We invite you to reach out to us with any questions, suggestions, or feedback you may have by sending an email to [email protected]. We value your input and will be happy to hear from you.


    Finally, we would like to emphasize that the views expressed by individuals on the podcast are their own, and It's Not A Ladder does not necessarily endorse them. We are committed to creating a platform for healthy discussions and diverse perspectives, and we look forward to having you join us on this journey!

    30 min
  • Episode 8: Impact Investing in ourselves, our planet and others with Harrison Adkin

    In this episode, we talk with Harrison Adkin, a Bachelor of Mechatronic Engineering and Commerce student at the University of Sydney.

    Join us on this journey as we explore with Harrison what impact investing really means, the integration of personal values with professional careers and a blueprint of creating critical mass for a grassroots organisation. 

    Outside of his studies, Harrison is one of the co-founders and current President of the Sydney University Impact Investing Society, a student group aimed at building the next generation of people and planet first thinkers out of university. Like many of us here in Australia, Harrison believes New Zealand is one of his favourite countries to visit and ski. 

    As always, for any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected]

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast

    38 min
  • Episode 7: Human connection and studying the art of words with Josie Lu

    In this episode, we talk with Josie Lu, a Bachelor of Arts and Advanced Studies student majoring in English and Media Communications at the University of Sydney.

    Join us on this journey as we explore with Josie the realities of journalism, importance of displaying humanity in all facets of life and complexities of finding one’s true passion.

    Outside of her studies, Josie has interned at BLOOM by Her, a talent management agency for People of Colour creators, and enjoys exploring all the opportunities that moving to a new city offers. She loves to go on long walks, dance and watch movies of all genres (especially rom coms).

    As always, for any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected] for any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast.

    47 min
  • Episode 6: Living beyond study with Stefano Gunawan

    In this episode, we talk with Stefano Gunawan, who studied at the University of Melbourne doing a Bachelors of Commerce but has since moved on to begin studying a Bachelors of Integrative Psychotherapy.

    Join us on this journey as we explore with Stefano how to truly be happy, the whirlwind of decisions in his life and interesting stories as he hitchhikes around New Zealand.

    Outside of study, Stefano was the founding President of Effective Altruism at the University of Melbourne, has his own blog, online yoga business and is a neurolinguistic programming coach. Currently, he is adventuring around New Zealand as a hitchhiker, rediscovering and reinventing his meaning of life.

    As always, for any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected]

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast.

    1 hr 8 min
  • Episode 5: Examining humanitarianism in medicine with Aravindh Anura

    In this episode, we talk with Aravindh Anura, a current medical student at the University of Melbourne. Before his medical degree, Aravindh graduated from a Bachelor of Arts majoring in anthropology and philosophy.

    Join us on this journey as we explore with Aravindh life’s greatest mysteries, the intrinsic link between philosophy and health and the importance of altruism and humility.

    Outside of study, Aravindh is a passionate volunteer and has been president of One for the World and Effective Altruism at the University of Melbourne before going on to establish the Alternative Protein Initiative. He finds great joy in reading and writing in the fields of poetry, philosophy, ethics and general existentialism. If that is not enough, Aravindh is also a keen composer and guitarist and from what we can tell, a very good one.

    As always, for any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected]

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast.

    54 min
  • Episode 4: Philosophy, Psychology and Public Health with Brandon Hao

    In this episode, we talk with Brandon Hao. After graduating from a Bachelor of Arts majoring in Psychology and Philosophy from the University of Melbourne 2020, Brandon moved to Canberra in 2021 for the Australian Department of Health Graduate Program and currently works as a program manager and data analyst. He continues to analyse COVID-19 vaccination uptake data for informing health policy development and protecting the health of vulnerable Australians. 

    Join us on this journey as we explore with Brandon the synergism of psychology, philosophy and faith and his experiences working in the Department of Health during the COVID-19 pandemic.  

    Outside of study, Brandon enjoyed playing violin in orchestra, attending church activities and was heavily involved in clubs and societies at university. and held leadership positions at the Melbourne University Biomedicine Students' Orchestra and the Melbourne University Christian Union.

    For any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected]

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast.

    1 hr 8 min
  • Episode 3: The Anatomy of Power with Allen Xiao

    In this episode, we talk with Allen Xiao, a second-year Medicine student at the University of Melbourne, having graduated from a Bachelor of Biomedicine and Diploma in German. 

    Join us on this journey as we explore with Allen the difficulties in starting medical school, culminating humanities and medicine and a philosophical discussion about power, health inequities and politics. 

    He is a keen contributor and leader to a range of student organisations, most recently serving as the General Secretary of the University of Melbourne Student Union (UMSU) in 2021. Besides his interests in activism, writing and public policy, he is especially passionate about the intersection of medicine and social change.

    To reach Allen for further questions, he can be contacted at h[email protected] 

    For any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected]

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast.

    54 min
  • Episode 2: Social Impact, Sustainability, and Side Hustles with Elizabeth Hu

    Today we chat with Elizabeth Hu, a Doctor of Medicine candidate at the University of Melbourne. She is the founder of two charity organisations that are dedicated to education, youth empowerment and social impact. She also holds numerous executive positions such as in Australian Medical Students’ Association, and other local groups. Passionate about community engagement, Elizabeth truly believes in the potential of youth to change the world. Elizabeth walks us through her journey from an undergraduate student to where she is now, and she provides us her valuable insights in public health, sustainability, and education through the extensive volunteering she has done. 


    To reach Elizabeth for further questions, she can be contacted at [email protected]

    For any questions, suggestions, or feedback, email us at [email protected]

    It's Not A Ladder does not endorse the views of individuals on the podcast.

    33 min

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