Episode 484 of Packers Therapy dives into one of the strangest outcomes in recent memory: the Green Bay Packers’ 40–40 tie with the Dallas Cowboys, the highest-scoring tie in NFL history. As the old saying goes, a tie is like kissing your sister—and Chris, Dave, and the good Dr. Klaus all agree this one left more of an aftertaste than a spark.

Was it a wasted opportunity for Jordan Love and Matt LaFleur’s crew, or should Packers fans feel lucky to limp out of Jerry World with half a win? The guys wrestle with whether ties even belong in football, relive the chaos of blown special teams plays, and scratch their heads over a defense that looked more like last year’s than Baltimore’s. Of course, “Trapdoor Love” makes a return, Rich “Wormtongue” Bisaccia takes some heat, and the always-beloved Ha Ha Clinton-Dix Pics provide comic relief.

Along the way, you’ll hear:

Jordan Love’s dazzling stats…and his maddening fumble.

How a blocked extra point changed the game’s entire trajectory.

Why Micah Parsons saved the game at the end but still felt invisible most of the night.

Special teams déjà vu that has fans wondering if Basaccia’s headset is just for show.

Listener emails, limericks, and the glory of winning a pub quiz in Racine.

So pour a brandy Old Fashioned, laugh at the absurdity, and join us in wondering: did the Packers escape, collapse, or both? One thing’s for sure—this 40–40 draw will live in infamy, right next to Old Smoky root beer brandy and Chris’s worm-infested metaphors.
 

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Posting its first show in 2005, Packers Therapy is the longest-running Packers podcast on the Internet. Hosts Chris and Dave began the show as a way of capturing the spirited chats the two co-workers had about the team around the office. The two have no pretense about being experts: they are just two opinionated shareholders who love the team, follow it closely, but don’t always see the Packers fortunes eye to eye.

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