You can listen to Jackie’s original interview here.

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"Fraud in America" is produced by Jeb White, James King, Emma Bass, and Jacklyn DeMar; research by Kathleen Scanlan and Max Voldman; edited by Rachel Brooks; original music by Connor Kaos.

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