Former U.S. Capitol Police Chief Steven Sund joins Brady and defendant William Pope for the most thorough, honest, and detailed breakdown of January 6th ever recorded.

From failures of intelligence, denial of extra law enforcement assistance, mysterious pipe bombs, to the aftermath that cost him his career.

This conversation brings police and defendants face-to-face in a rare, respectful, and deeply important discussion about truth, accountability, and the future of America.

Sund recounts the moment-by-moment decisions inside the J6 command center, the political pressure surrounding the event, and the devastating personal fallout. Pope provides on-the-ground perspective, questions inconsistencies, and shares his own experience with the justice system.