Jacinda Ardern (former New Zealand Prime minister and author of the gripping account 'A Different Kind Of Power') joins Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt for an intimate and inspiring conversation about leadership, empathy, and the challenge of balancing global responsibility with motherhood.

A new power of kindness and authenticity, leading with empathy. 

“I refuse to believe you cannot be both compassionate and strong,” Jacinda shares, echoing her hallmark approach to navigating tumultuous crises on the world stage. She recounts moments of self-doubt not as setbacks, but as signals to summon even greater courage in the service of others. “One of the criticisms I’ve faced over the years is that I’m not aggressive enough or assertive enough, or maybe somehow, because I’m empathetic, I’m weak. I totally rebel against that.”

Jacinda opens up about her time in office, reflecting on self-doubt, courage, and why kindness is one of the most powerful qualities a leader can have.

Together, they explore navigating crises, finding joy in the everyday, and raising the next generation with compassion and purpose.

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