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What does it really mean to be a woman today? Is progress making life easier, or are we just facing a new set of challenges?

This episode discusses domestic violence and other strong themes. Please know support is available, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.

In this special October Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron dive into the stories shaping this month's issue, from the realities of growing up as a girl in the age of social media to the men working to end violence against women.

They unpack the pressures facing girls today, including online safety, body image, digital culture and the growing influence of misogynistic online communities. They also discuss the mental load women carry at home, asking what would happen if mums simply stopped doing everything, and whether "doing less" might actually be the key to a happier family.

The episode also explores the booming longevity industry and why ageing has become the latest frontier for wellness marketing. Georgie and Mel question whether biohacking, supplements and expensive treatments are really helping us live longer, or simply giving us another impossible standard to chase.

Plus, they discuss one of the most astonishing true stories featured in the issue: an adopted woman who reunites with her biological father, only for the relationship to take an unexpected turn. And they celebrate cover star Teresa Palmer, who opens up about motherhood, ambition, self-belief and landing the biggest role of her career at 40.

This episode covers:

• Marie Claire Australia's October Issue and Teresa Palmer cover story
• What it's really like to grow up as a girl today
• Social media, online safety, consent and the challenges facing teenage girls
• Advice from inspiring women on confidence, ambition and backing yourself
• The mental load and what happens when mums stop managing everyone's lives
• Gender roles, household labour and modern relationships
• Male advocates working to end violence against women
• Why men need to be part of the conversation on gendered violence
• The longevity boom, biohacking and the business of wellness
• Whether expensive anti-ageing treatments actually deliver results
• The extraordinary adoption reunion that led to a five-year relationship
• Genetic sexual attraction and the complexities of identity and belonging
• Teresa Palmer on motherhood, career reinvention and her new role in God of War
• "Vagina maxxing", intimate wellness trends and the growing commercialisation of women's bodies
• Why women's health should be based on evidence, not perfectionism

Further reading from the October Issue:

International Day Of The Girl: Three Young Women On What Needs To Change For Australian Girls By Harriet Sim

Can Women Really Stop Doing Invisible Labour? One Writer Finds Out By Dilvin Yasa

AI, Toxic Masculinity And Diagnosis-By-Algorithm: The Reality Of Raising Teenage Girls Today By Dilvin Yasa

Follow male advocates on Insta @tarangchawla @itsharrijames @lastoftheromans

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Edited and Produced by Helen Smith

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Money can be a source of stress, confusion and avoidance, but what if being good with money wasn’t just about building wealth but an act of self-care? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by financial adviser, author and SugarMamma founder Canna Campbell to talk about money mindset, financial freedom and how taking control of your finances can be a powerful way of taking care of yourself. 

Canna shares practical advice on setting specific financial goals, creating a simple budget, spending intentionally, and building additional income streams. They also discuss superannuation, investing, income protection, the gender retirement gap and FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early). 

Plus, how childhood beliefs can shape our relationship with money, why social media can distort our perception of wealth, how couples can have better conversations about finances, why decluttering can reveal more about our spending habits, and the one financial task Canna says you should stop putting off.  

If you've ever felt overwhelmed, ashamed or simply unsure about your finances, this is a reminder that getting better with money doesn't have to mean doing everything at once. Sometimes, looking after your money is simply another way of looking after yourself. 

This episode covers: 

• Canna Campbell on what financial freedom really means 
• Changing your mindset around money 
• Letting go of shame and inherited beliefs about finances 
• Setting specific, meaningful financial goals 
• Why you don’t need to fix your entire financial life at once 
• Taking small, achievable steps towards financial freedom 
• Creating a simple budget that actually works for you 
• Building a financial “float” for unexpected and annual expenses 
• Spending intentionally and prioritising what you value 
• How social media can distort our perception of wealth 
• Canna’s “Thousand Dollar Project” and the power of compounding 
• Understanding and taking control of your superannuation 
• Income protection and protecting your ability to earn 
• FIRE: Financial Independence, Retire Early 
• Money and relationships, and how couples can talk about finances 
• Why having your own financial assets matters 
• Decluttering and what your spending habits can reveal about you 
• What to do when you’ve been avoiding your finances 
• Why the best time to start is now 

Find out more about Canna's book Twelve Months to Financial Freedom and https://www.sugarmamma.tv/

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Host Georgie McCourt    

Edited by Helen Smith  

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain  

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire   

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What can 20 years of working in family law teach you about marriage, divorce and what makes a relationship last? 

In Part Two of Georgie McCourt's conversation with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok sensation Fidan Shevket, Fidan gets candid about her “Don’t worry about it” philosophy, dealing with trolls, her decision to have a breast reduction and everything her career has taught her about relationships. 

Fidan reveals what ultimately led her to have a breast reduction after years of people commenting on her body, and how the procedure changed her life after she began experiencing chronic back pain. 

As a family lawyer, Fidan has spent more than two decades watching relationships break down. She shares what she believes are some of the most common reasons marriages end, from communication problems and falling out of love to couples gradually living separate lives. She also talks about what she's learnt from those experiences and how she applies them to her own relationship. 

Fidan and Georgie also get into the world of prenups, or binding financial agreements, including when Fidan believes they can make sense, why they can be complicated, and the importance of getting good legal advice before signing one. 

And, of course, there's food. Fidan gives Georgie a glimpse into her latest cookbook project and explains why salads, platters and finding joy in the everyday have become such a big part of her online world. 

This episode covers: 

• Fidan's “Don't worry about it” philosophy 
• Dealing with trolls and criticism online 
• Why she eventually decided to have a breast reduction 
• The back pain that led to the decision 
• What 20 years in family law has taught her about relationships 
• The common reasons marriages break down 
• Communication, compromise and making an effort in a relationship 
• Why couples need to maintain their own interests 
• Fidan's views on prenups and financial protection 
• What women should consider before signing a settlement 
• Her advice for anyone feeling worn down during a divorce 
• Her approach to intimidation and confidence 
• Her latest cookbook project 
• Finding joy in the everyday 

Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau 

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Credits:    

Host Georgie McCourt    

Edited by Helen Smith  

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain  

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire   

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One day family lawyer Fidan Shevket decided to make a salad on TikTok, and it ended up with more than 15.2 million views.  

In this two-part conversation, Marie Claire editor Georgie McCourt sits down with family lawyer, author, mum and TikTok sensation Fidan Shevket to talk about her extraordinary career, surviving cancer as a teenager, motherhood and the unexpected journey that turned her into one of Australia's most recognisable social media personalities. 

She takes us back to the beginning, from surviving cancer as a teenager to building a career in family law and navigating IVF, miscarriage and the premature birth of her twins at just 26 weeks. She opens up about the experiences that have shaped her outlook on life, motherhood and her determination to make the most of every day. 

Fidan also shares how she went from making videos about family law to building a following of more than 1.4 million people on TikTok. She talks about the viral salads, Saturday platters and everyday moments that have made her so beloved online, and explains the thinking behind her now-famous philosophy: “Don’t worry about it.” 

Part two continues the conversation with Fidan on breast reduction, trolls, marriage and divorce, what two decades of working in family law have taught her about relationships, prenups and her exciting new cookbook project. 

This episode covers: 

• How Fidan went from family lawyer to TikTok sensation 
• The unexpected story behind her 1.4 million followers 
• The viral salad that changed everything 
• Why Saturday platters became part of her online identity 
• Surviving cancer as a teenager 
• Discovering years later that she had a rare form of cancer 
• How her parents protected her from the reality of her diagnosis 
• Starting IVF in her late 30s 
• Miscarriage and the emotional reality of trying to conceive 
• The premature birth of her twins at 26 weeks 
• Life in the NICU and becoming a mother under extraordinary circumstances 
• Breastfeeding, formula and the pressure placed on new mothers 
• Finding resilience through some of life's most difficult moments 
• Why Fidan believes in squeezing the day and finding joy in the everyday 

Stay up to date with Marie Claire Australia on Instagram @marieclaireau 

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Credits:    

Host Georgie McCourt    

Edited by Helen Smith  

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain  

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire   

You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media https://www.marieclaire.com.au/life/youre-gonna-want-to-hear-this-podcast/ 

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What happens when the person you loved, the person you trusted with your future, wasn’t who they said they were? 

Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt sits down with author, advocate and marketing executive Tracy Hall, whose extraordinary story became known through the hit investigative podcast Who the Hell Is Hamish? Tracy was Hamish McLaren’s final known victim, after an 18-month relationship, she discovered that the man she knew as Max Tavita was in fact one of Australia’s most notorious con men. He had stolen $317,000 of her life savings. 

Now, years after her story first captivated listeners, Tracy joins Georgie to tell the story in her own words. From falling in love with a man who appeared to share her values and ambitions, to discovering that almost everything she knew about him was a lie. 

Tracy takes us inside the sophisticated manipulation that kept her from seeing what was happening, including the slow-building relationship, the carefully manufactured similarities, future promises and conversations about money that ultimately led to her investing her savings. She explains why romance scams aren’t about intelligence or naivety, why anyone can be vulnerable to manipulation, and why the shame should belong with the perpetrator, not the victim. 

She also talks about The Last Victim, her memoir about the experience, and the work she is now doing to advocate for safer online dating, financial empowerment and a different way of talking about victims of scams. She explains why she believes dating apps need stronger identity verification, what happened when she discovered Hamish had appeared on a dating app again, and why she wants better safeguards in place before her own daughter enters the world of online dating. 

And in one of the most timely parts of the conversation, Tracy explores the next generation of deception, AI scams, deepfakes and voice cloning and why “trust literacy” may become as important as financial and digital literacy. 

This episode covers: 

• Tracy Hall’s role as Hamish McLaren’s last known victim 
• Her story as featured in Who the Hell Is Hamish? 
• Meeting Hamish, who she knew as Max Tavita, on a dating app 
• How an 18-month relationship was carefully constructed 
• The manipulation tactics and warning signs she missed 
• How $317,000 of her savings was stolen 
• Why intelligent, successful people can become victims of romance scams 
• The psychological impact of intimate fraud and betrayal 
• Rebuilding her confidence, identity and ability to trust 
• Becoming financially empowered after the scam 
• Writing The Last Victim 
• Victim blaming and the language we use around scams 
• Why dating apps need stronger safety measures 
• Hamish McLaren appearing on a dating app after his release 
• Dating again and learning to trust herself 
• “Trust literacy” and navigating deception in the digital age. AI scams, deepfakes and voice cloning 
• Why shame belongs with the perpetrator, not the victim 

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Host Georgie McCourt   

Edited by Helen Smith 

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain 

With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire  

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What if being “nice” isn’t the same as being kind? And what happens when women stop making themselves smaller to keep everyone else comfortable? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by political journalist, author and cultural commentator Amy Remeikis to unpack women, power, anger, civility and the pressure to be “good”. 

The author of Screw Nice, Amy explores why women are often judged for being direct, angry or emotional, while the same behaviour can be interpreted very differently in men. She discusses the double standards behind labels like “difficult”, the expectation that women make themselves smaller, and why refusing to be compliant can be an act of power. 

Amy also shares her own experiences of learning to speak up, including a childhood moment that made her question why the way a woman responds to injustice can become more important than the injustice itself. She explains how she approaches uncomfortable conversations with people whose political views differ from her own, and why asking “why?” can be more productive than immediately shutting down a difficult conversation. 

Plus, Amy shares her advice for dealing with being called “emotional”, “hysterical” or “difficult”, why women should stop apologising unless they have actually done something wrong, and how walking away from an argument can sometimes be the most empowering response. 

This episode covers: 

• The politics of being “nice” 
• Why women are labelled “difficult” 
• Anger, protest and speaking up 
• Grace Tame and the policing of women’s behaviour 
• Double standards for women in leadership 
• Political disagreement and finding common ground 
• Gaslighting and emotional dismissal 
• Why women need to stop apologising for everything 
• Taking up space and using your power 
• The difference between being nice and being decent 

You can find Amy's book Screw Nice here https://www.hachette.com.au/amy-remeikis/screw-nice

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Host Georgie McCourt   

Edited by Helen Smith 

Head of Vodcasting Rachel Fountain 

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Anine Bing has spent more than a decade building the kind of fashion empire most entrepreneurs dream of, launching ANINE BING from a Los Angeles garage and turning her signature blend of Scandinavian simplicity and LA cool into a global brand. But now, the designer, entrepreneur and creative is asking a different question: what success actually look like when it feels like it’s time to start again? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Anine for a deeply personal conversation about awakening, ambition, burnout, divorce, motherhood, creativity and the journey of finding her way back to herself. 

At 43, Anine found herself questioning whether she was truly living her truth or feeling fulfilled. After years of building her global fashion brand while raising her children, she realised she had been so busy “building, building, building” that she hadn’t had time to sit with herself and understand how she really felt. What followed was a period of deep inner work, major personal change and, ultimately, a new sense of freedom. 

Anine also talks candidly about divorce, starting again in her 40s and the unexpected happiness she found on the other side. From creating a new home on her own terms to discovering that she is genuinely happy being alone, Anine reflects on what freedom means to her now and why she feels she has finally come back to herself. 

The conversation also explores the evolution of ANINE BING, from packing orders on the garage floor while pregnant to building a global fashion business, and the importance of staying in your own lane rather than getting distracted by what everyone else is doing. She shares her philosophy on personal style, buying less but better, and why the right clothes can change how you feel about yourself. 

Plus, Anine opens up about music as a form of healing, her album Chapter Two, motherhood, raising teenagers, finding her voice and why she now feels an obligation to share her experiences if they might help another woman. 

This episode covers: 

• Anine Bing on her awakening in her 40s  
• Finding your way back to yourself  
• The hidden reality of burnout and ambition 
• Balancing motherhood and building a global business  
• Learning to prioritise yourself  
• Divorce and finding happiness on the other side  
• Starting a new chapter on your own terms  
• The freedom of being alone  
• Staying in your own lane  
• Building a successful fashion brand  
• Buying less and better and finding your personal uniform  
• Fashion, confidence and how clothes make us feel 
• Music as therapy and healing and Anine’s new album, Chapter Two  
• Motherhood and raising teenagers  
• Being comfortable in your own skin  
• The power of starting over  
• Why you shouldn’t give up 

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Host Georgie McCourt   

Edited by Helen Smith 

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What does it really mean to find your personal style? Our bodies change. Our lives change. So why do we expect our wardrobes to stay the same?

In this special Style Issue episode of You're Gonna Want To Hear This, Marie Claire Editor Georgie McCourt and Deputy Editor Mel Gaudron take us inside the pages of the magazine's biggest fashion issue of the year, from Anne Hathaway's career renaissance to the messy reality of getting dressed in the morning.

They unpack what it means to find your own style after motherhood and through perimenopause, why comfort becomes increasingly important as we get older, and how major life experiences can completely transform the way we dress. They also explore the growing acceptance of grey hair, the power of dopamine dressing, and the unspoken fashion rules that make us question whether we're getting it "right."

The episode also looks beyond fashion, exploring the booming bumpfluencer economy and the way pregnancy and motherhood have become increasingly commercialised online. Georgie and Mel discuss the benefits and risks of monetising motherhood, the products being marketed to pregnant women, and why social media can make every stage of a woman's life feel like a commodity.

They also share the extraordinary story of Jess Denham, who survived horrific childhood abuse and has gone on to become an advocate for better mental health support and greater confidentiality for sexual assault survivors. Plus, they discuss Marie Claire's investigation into voluntary assisted dying in Australia, Leighton Meester on success, self-worth and beauty, and why style ultimately comes down to feeling confident enough to be yourself.

This episode covers:

• Marie Claire Australia's September Style Issue and Anne Hathaway's cover story
• Anne Hathaway's career renaissance, The Devil Wears Prada 2 and The Odyssey
• Finding your personal style and the pressure to follow fashion trends
• How motherhood changes the way women dress
• Perimenopause, body image and dressing for comfort
• Going grey and embracing ageing
• Dopamine dressing and using colour as a form of self-expression
• The "bumpfluencer" economy and the commercialisation of motherhood
• Jess Denham's extraordinary story of survival and advocacy
• Voluntary assisted dying and the personal stories behind the debate
• Leighton Meester on success, self-worth and beauty
• Why personal style is ultimately about confidence and being yourself

The September issue of Marie Claire Australia, starring Anne Hathaway, is on sale now.

Further reading from the September Issue:

Six Well-Dressed Women Share How They Found Their Style by Harriet Sim

Inside The Unregulated World Of Pregnancy Influencers by Madison Griffiths

Jess Denham Survived The Unthinkable. Now She’s A Voice For Other Survivors by Nina Funnell

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CONTENT WARNING: This episode covers violence, death and sexual assault. In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.  

What does it mean to be a good man and what happens when we stop teaching boys that masculinity has to fit inside a box? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by writer, speaker and anti-violence campaigner Tarang Chawla for a deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation about grief, masculinity, violence against women, the manosphere and what it means to create change. 

Tarang is the founder of Not One More Nikki, an organisation named in memory of his sister Nikki, who was murdered by her husband in 2015 at just 23 years old. He opens up about Nikki’s life, the abuse and coercive control she experienced, the devastating impact of her death, and how grief ultimately became a catalyst for his work advocating for an Australia free from violence against women. 

He reflects on the conversations we need to have with boys and men about power, empathy and accountability, and why “not all men” distracts from the more important question: what can men do to be part of the solution? 

Tarang also explores the rise of the manosphere, and the online spaces drawing young men towards misogyny and unpacks the “Man Box” - the expectations that tell boys and men to be tough, dominant and unemotional.  

Plus, Tarang shares the heartfelt message he would give to Nikki if she were here today, a deeply personal reflection on love, loss and the sibling bond they shared. 

This is a conversation about grief, masculinity, accountability and what it takes to create meaningful change. 

This episode covers: 

• Tarang Chawla on the death of his sister Nikki 
• Nikki’s story and the reality of coercive control 
• Turning grief into advocacy and action 
• Violence against women and men’s responsibility 
• Why “not all men” is a useless response 
• What men can do to be part of the solution 
• The rise of the manosphere and why young boys are drawn to online misogyny 
• The “Man Box” and expectations of masculinity 
• Accountability, bystander intervention and male friendship 
• Why “why doesn’t she just leave?” misses the point 
• Pauline Hanson’s comments on domestic violence 
• Challenging misogyny without turning away from boys and men 
• Grief, memory and living with the loss of Nikki 
• What Tarang wants men to understand about violence 
• Creating a healthier, more expansive idea of masculinity 

If this conversation raises issues for you, support is available. 

In Australia, contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 for 24/7 crisis support, 1800RESPECT on 1800 737 732 for domestic, family and sexual violence support.  

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What happens when you refuse to be defined by just one version of yourself? 

This week, Marie Claire Australia Editor Georgie McCourt is joined by Sabrina Dhowre Elba for a wide-ranging conversation about beauty, ambition, heritage, purpose and finding your own path. 

Sabrina is a model, entrepreneur, beauty founder, activist, philanthropist and UN Goodwill Ambassador, but she’s also someone who has spent much of her life challenging the idea that women have to fit neatly into one box. She opens up about growing up in a Somali family in Canada, the influence of her mother Maryam, and how her heritage shaped the way she thinks about advocacy, philanthropy and representation. 

She also talks about building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba, her husband, and the frustration with an industry that historically failed to properly cater to melanin-rich skin. Which ultimately lead to why she wanted to create a beauty brand that celebrates African ingredients and knowledge without making the product feel exclusive.  

Sabrina also shares her hopes for changing the way the world talks about Africa, her work around agriculture and economic independence, and what she has learnt about using her platform to create long-term change. And, in a new chapter, she opens up about taking on her first lead film role, and what she discovered about herself while stepping into acting. 

This is a conversation about identity, ambition, culture, purpose and the freedom to explore every side of yourself. As Sabrina puts it, her message is simple: don’t be afraid to explore different sides of yourself and just do the thing. 

This episode covers: 

• Sabrina Dhowre Elba on refusing to be put in a box 
• Growing up in a Somali family in Canada 
• The influence of her mother, Maryam 
• Heritage, identity and representation 
• Building S’Able Labs with Idris Elba 
• Creating more inclusive skincare 
• African botanicals and traditional knowledge 
• The realities of self-funding a beauty brand 
• Purpose, philanthropy and meaningful impact 
• Changing the way the world talks about Africa 
• Agriculture, climate change and economic independence 
• Marriage, partnership and working with Idris 
• Sabrina's first lead film role 
• Why you should never be afraid to explore different sides of yourself 

Check out S'Able Labs here https://bit.ly/4x3WzLd

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Host Georgie McCourt   

Edited by Helen Smith 

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With thanks to our amazing team at Marie Claire  

You're Gonna Want to Hear This is a production of Marie Claire and Are Media. 

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