Suzi talks to historian Myrna Santiago (https://www.stmarys-ca.edu/faculty-experts/find-faculty-by-name-expertise/myrna-santiago-phd) and immigrants' rights specialist Alicia Rusoja (https://www.stmarys-ca.edu/node/193150), who just returned from a week at the border, where they talked to men, women, and child migrants, sat in immigration court, and spoke to support groups — as well as deported veterans, and deported mothers of Dreamers in Tijuana. Their reflections and revelations include the way abuse and corruption are adding to the horrors these migrants face. Suzi then talks to Daniel Finn (https://www.jacobinmag.com/author/daniel-finn) about British politics: while the Tories are deciding whether Boris Johnson will be their next leader, the Labour Party has its own dilemmas — over its attitude to Brexit, but also how to deal with the surprisingly effective smear campaign against Labour’s left-wing leadership, in particular leader Jeremy Corbyn. Finn looks at the underlying controversy, and as he wrote in Jacobin, despite Corbyn’s unprecedented efforts to expel antisemites from party ranks (no such similar move in the Conservative Party), Corbyn’s critics will never be satisfied — their issue is Corbyn’s politics itself. This has great relevance for our own politics, as Finn explains.