This week, Australia’s first out and proud footballer, LGBTI and mental health activist, and Australian Greens candidate, Jason Ball, joins Benjamin to talk about his growing up, coming out and establishing of the Pride Cup, a framework for sporting codes to run gender and sexuality inclusive matches to break down barriers in sport.

Word For Word airs midday (AEDT) Saturdays on JOY 94.9 in Melbourne, streaming live at JOY.org.au, on the JOY App or iHeartRadio, and available via podcast from iTunes or your favourite podcast provider.