Jason Wilde joins Jim and Matt following the Packers' 34-31 loss to the Lions on Thursday Night Football. Jim asks Jason about Dan Campbell's bold 4th-down decisions that paid off for his team, and how does Detroit's very solid identity compare to Green Bay's identity with Matt LaFleur. Matt also explains to Jason why he's got issues with LaFleur's play-calling and the offense's track record of slow starts, and Jason explains why Matt isn't a TOTAL idiot. But, what's up with Jaden Reed only getting one target in the game, and are the Packers' handicapping or helping the offense when they dedicate to running the ball with Josh Jacobs? Primetime also tries desperately to get Jim and Matt to respect Jason's time to no avail.