An airhacks.fm conversation with Shai Almog (@debugagent) about:

Shai previously on episode "#238 The History of Mobile Java and Codename One",

flutter, Java FX and Codename One,

openjfx,

the challenges of marketing,

google fuchsia,

immediate mode graphics and Swing,

JavaFX and Scene Graph Mode,

Java FX got the idea from F3,

GPU acceleration,

apache tvm,

the tornadovm project,

Codename One generates a xcode project,

Flutter ships with runtime