This week, we unpack our thoughts, feelings, and truth on our current existence outside of the church. It's definitely as black and white as we would have always assumed of this topic

As we have watched our two oldest children navigate new environments and brand new relationships, it brought up the question of when and how we found our main connections, what is important to us about those connections, and how those friendships enrich our lives.

It's always been our desire to keep our show as real, relateable, authentic, and raw and what better way than to record when we are not yet to fond of one another! We pray this show blesses you and keeps you as it has us.

Jay has not yet tried to check out from his life, and Jess is constantly trying to find ways to plug back into hers. It makes for some pretty interesting shower conversations, so we thought we would bring one to y'all!

Join Jay and Jesse Norman for a new episode of Moving On as the podcast resumes.

This episode comes on the heels of a mass shooting that occurred very near our home, while our children happened to be IN that very town without us at a trampoline park close by. As fear and worry have tried to drown all parts of us, we desperately choose to seek gratitude, peace, and connection instead.

With Jay's help, I have chosen to be "dead honest and dead vulnerable" and to go INSIDE the arena, no matter the cost. In this episode, I share a secret with you all that I have held for a long time, and I pray our trust in this community continues to flourish as we Move On......Again.

You are going to be so blessed while listening, as these two have such whole hearts that see the world in such a beautiful and helpful way-passing along incredible nuggets of wisdom without even trying!

Jess and an under-the-weather farmer dig a little deeper into the meaning behind the rebrand, with an even lower Velvet Thunder register. There is a Q&A at the end, the first in its family, that will be sure to have you laughing and blushing all at the same time! Our God is so so charming!

Welcome to the second part of the Camino Cowboys with Jacob Gallardo, Shaun Hiller, Jess Norman, and Velvet Thunder. The crew picks right back up where they left off in part I, and you are sure to be blessed by the stories they share!