Jay Martel, Executive producer and co-showrunner of Key & Peele and Teachers, author of Channel Blue, Speed Bump, and much more, does a deep bald dive with Brian and Charlie. They discuss a lot, including switching paths in the biz, the weirdness of selling TV shows, how annoying Charlie was in the K&P writers room, and the enjoyment of the solitude of being an author. Also, Jay has some notes for he and Brian's kids writing aspirations.

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Charlie Sanders