Jeffrey van Leeuwen Podcast

Jeffrey van Leeuwen Podcast

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  • #47 - FBI Sleep Expert: How to Get Better Sleep & Beat Insomnia and Sleep Apnea | Dr. Leah Kaylor

    Drowsy driving is deadlier than drunk driving. In this episode, Dr. Leah Kaylor explains why your sleep is a safety issue, not just a lifestyle choice. She is a licensed clinical and prescribing psychologist, the FBI’s in-house sleep expert with a specialty in sleep and trauma, and a relentless educator on evidence-based fixes.

     1. Reset your clock: keep a consistent wake time and get outside within an hour of waking. Morning light signals the suprachiasmatic nucleus, shuts off lingering melatonin, and jump-starts alertness.

     2. Master evenings: dim overheads, use lamps or warm smart bulbs, and let your space darken with sunset. Keep bedrooms cool in the low 60s.

     3. If you work nights: use a sunrise alarm and timed bright-light therapy to shift rhythm; front-load a healthy meal; sip caffeine little and often with a hard cutoff 6–8 hours before bed; no sunglasses while commuting home if you are driving; sleep in a dark, quiet, truly blackout room.

     4. Safety first: learn the “nappuccino” (espresso, then a 20-minute nap). It outperforms either alone when fatigue hits mid-commute. Microsleeps make you stop steering and braking entirely. Pull over.

     5. Insomnia or apnea: insomnia shows up as trouble falling, staying asleep, or waking unrefreshed; obstructive sleep apnea often hides behind loud snoring, morning headaches, and crushing daytime fatigue. Get a sleep study.

     6. Habits that help: avoid long or late naps; reserve the bed for the three S’s only—sleep, sex, sickness; set boundaries with screens and games; watch caffeine’s 4–6 hour half-life; skip alcohol as a “sleep aid” since it fragments sleep and suppresses REM.  

    Thank you for listening.

     

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    OUTLINE:

    00:00 What a Sleep Psychologist Does

    01:53 Why the FBI Needs Sleep Science

    04:51 Three High-Impact Sleep Habits

    10:18 Consistent Schedule, Sunrise Alarms, and Light

    15:40 What Is Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD)

    17:18 Shift-Work Survival: Strategies and Support

    23:10 Drowsy Driving and the Nappuccino

    30:41 Night Shifts and Cancer Risk

    39:33 Are You Actually Sleep Deprived

    44:32 Wired but Tired; Does Creatine Help

    48:35 Screens, Gaming, and Bedtime Procrastination

    57:05 Train Your Brain: The Three S’s

    1:06:26 Insomnia vs Sleep Apnea

    1:21:26 Naps, Sleep Inertia, and Timing

    1:28:25 The Effect of Alcohol on Sleep

    1:30:26 The Myth of 4-Hour Sleep

    1:38:54 Final Thoughts & Outro

     

    LEAH KAYLOR LINKS:

    Leah Kaylor's Website & Book

    Leah Kaylor on YouTube

    Leah Kaylor on Instagram

    Leah Kaylor on LinkedIn

     

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    1 hr 41 min
  • #46 - Psychotherapist: Rethinking Autism, Education, and Mindfulness | Michael Ostrolenk

    At nine, Michael Ostrolenk refused a psychiatrist’s quick-fix, walked out, and followed a different map: guided imagery, biofeedback, meditation, and martial arts. That choice shaped everything. Years later, a brutal one-two of loss during an MBA program forced a pivot into transpersonal and somatic psychology, coaching, and a decade building programs with SEALFIT. In this conversation, Michael traces the line from a mislabeled “learning disabled” kid to a clinician and coach who helps people regulate their nervous systems, deepen relationships, and live with agency.

    We talk about:

    • Why the industrial school model rewards compliance, and how unschooling or democratic free schools can cultivate curiosity.
    • When to consider sleep, nutrition, movement, family dynamics, and environment before reaching for Ritalin or Concerta, plus the limited, tactical role stimulants might play for adults.
    • AM and PM rituals that work: sleep hygiene, 5-7 breathing to calm, box breathing to focus, light movement, gratitude.
    • How somatic work unfreezes anger or sadness, and how to measure change using first, second, and third person feedback.
    • What mindfulness actually is: the trained witness that turns reactivity into choice.
    • Thank you for listening.

       

      SHOW LINKS:

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      OUTLINE:

      00:00 Introduction

      01:43 Who Is Michael Ostrolenk?

      04:45 Questioning Education and Early Struggles

      08:47 Alternative Healing and Martial Arts at Age Nine

      11:12 Rethinking Education for Children

      17:07 Holistic Approaches for Parents

      20:51 Parenting, Pressure, and the 80/20 Rule

      23:34 Perspectives on Ritalin and Concerta

      29:26 Creativity, School, and Medication

      33:36 Origins of the Industrial Education System

      42:02 Turning Point: From MBA to Psychology

      47:06 Exploring Transpersonal Psychology

      52:46 Psychedelics, Therapy, and Consciousness

      54:07 Understanding Mind–Body Connection

      01:00:06 Working With Couples and Emotions

      01:11:59 Practical Habits for Sleep, Diet, and Movement

      01:17:45 Breathing and Guided Meditation for Sleep

      01:23:56 Morning Rituals and Preparation Practices

      01:28:50 Tracking Progress and Measuring Change

      01:33:59 Mindfulness vs. Consciousness

      01:39:01 What Lack of Mindfulness Looks Like

      01:45:40 Does Mindfulness Make Life More Frustrating?

      01:48:09 Agreements, Relationships, and Appreciation

      01:58:40 Final Thoughts

       

      MICHAEL OSTROLENK LINKS:

      Michael's Youtube Channel

      Michael's LinkedIn

      Michael's Instagram

      Michael's X

       

      CONTACT LINKS:

      Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

       

      This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

      2 hr 2 min
    • #45 - High-Conflict Divorce Coach: How to Fight Legal Abuse & Coercive Control | Lisa Johnson

      Is family court protecting you or enabling abuse? In this episode, high-conflict divorce coach Lisa Johnson of Been There Got Out breaks down how “legal abuse” and coercive control play out in real cases, and why smart strategy (and not just righteousness) wins in court. Drawing from her own litigation (including arguing an appeal herself that resulted in a published decision in the Connecticut Law Journal), Lisa shows how to navigate a system that often rewards gamesmanship over truth.

      We talk about:

      1. What legal abuse and “legal gaslighting” look like day-to-day—and how to keep your footing when the other side twists facts.
      2. The discipline of “writing for the invisible audience”: turning every message into admissible evidence, building a clean paper trail, and avoiding reactive traps.
      3. Going pro se: when it’s viable, preparation pitfalls, and how courts actually perceive self-represented litigants.
      4. Enforcement that works: why “orders with teeth” (deadlines and consequences) matter more than ideal rulings—and how to push for them.
      5. Jennifer’s Law and the shift toward recognizing coercive control, expanding the legal lens beyond physical violence.
      6. A hard-earned case study: college-education obligations, repeated contempt findings, and the grind of appeals—plus the practical mindset that gets results without losing yourself.
      7. If you’re facing a high-conflict ex, custody battles, or a court process that feels endless, Lisa’s playbook offers clarity, language, and leverage you can use immediately.

        Thank you for listening.

         

        SHOW LINKS:

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        OUTLINE:

        00:00 Introduction

        01:33 Lisa's Background

        04:14 Early Red Flags

        06:42 The Discovery and Denial

        11:03 Telling the Kids

        12:31 Betrayal Trauma & Identity Shock

        20:15 Couples Counseling Gone Wrong

        25:39 Why He Fought to Keep Control

        33:14 Filing for Divorce & His Exit

        41:23 Fighting for College Support & Enforcement

        50:38 Going Pro Se & Facing Retaliation

        57:32 How to Persuade a Court: Logos, Pathos, Ethos

        1:10:05 Legal Gaslighting & Getting Help

        1:16:21 Strategic Communication: Build Your Paper Trail

        1:20:02 Proving You’re a Good Parent

        1:24:44 Shielding Kids From Court Conflict

        1:27:18 Jennifer’s Law, Coercive Control & Orders With Teeth

        1:35:43 From Survivor to Coach

        1:45:02 Key Advice for Listeners

        1:47:00 Final Thoughts & Outro

         

        LISA JOHNSON LINKS:

        Been There Got Out Website

        Been There Got Out on Instagram

        Been There Got Out on X

         

        CONTACT LINKS:

        Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

         

        This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

        1 hr 49 min
      8. #44 - Christian Apologist: Morality, Meaning, and the Case for God | Joshua Spatha

        Joshua Spatha majored in anthropology with a minor in Old Testament studies and has served in full-time missions since 2006, primarily across the Middle East and Asia. An ordained minister and disciple‑maker with Youth With A Mission (YWAM), Joshua blends frontline ministry with academic insight, as he prepares for long-term ministry in Central Asia.

        In our conversation, you'll hear how Western culture’s reliance on materialism and humanism has fueled a deep meaning crisis, and why happiness alone no longer sustains us. Joshua shares compelling analogies to illustrate how adopting a self‑centered framework inevitably leads to emptiness and incoherence. He challenges the question, “What’s in it for me?” as the wrong foundation.

        This episode is not just about morality: it’s about how reason and spiritual depth intertwine, why faith isn’t a blind leap, and how a rational embrace of the supernatural reclaims meaning.

        Thank you for listening.

         

        SHOW LINKS:

        Support the Show on: Patreon

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        OUTLINE:

        00:00 Introduction

        01:44 The Modern Meaning Crisis

        07:48 Enlightenment’s Impact on Faith

        11:23 From Religion to Self-Focus

        14:55 Science, Truth & Worldviews

        20:02 Personal Meaning vs Objective Reality

        31:45 Christianity’s Case for Human Flourishing

        36:49 Secular Morality Under the Microscope

        44:42 Chaos, Materialism & Ethics

        01:07:16 Implicit Spirituality & Cognitive Dissonance

        01:16:29 The Universal Conscience

        01:19:29 Free Will and Belief Change

        01:53:39 Miracles: Chance or Design?

        02:22:05 Practicing and Testing Faith

        02:32:47 Final Thoughts & Outro

         

        JOSHUA SPATHA LINKS:

        Joshua's Website & Book

         

        CONTACT LINKS:

        Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

         

        This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

        2 hr 38 min
      9. #43 - Former Cult Insider: Inside the Dark World of “Love Has Won” | Andrew-Ryan Profaci

        Andrew-Ryan Profaci thought he found spiritual truth, but instead became entangled in the bizarre world of a modern cult known as “Love Has Won.” Driven by curiosity and a deep desire for meaning, Andrew-Ryan quickly rose from outsider to insider, witnessing firsthand the manipulation tactics of cult leader Amy Carlson, referred to by members as “Mother God,” whom he once cared for deeply.

         

        In this raw and honest conversation, we talk about: 

        - What initially drew Andrew to the cult known as "Love Has Won."

        - A vivid portrayal of daily life within the cult.

        - The leadership’s layered control tactics and massive financial exploitation.

        - An individual who secretly orchestrated and controlled the cult behind the scenes.

        - What really happened before and directly after Amy Carlson’s death, and why Andrew now speaks out.

         

        SHOW LINKS:

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        OUTLINE:

        00:00 Introduction

        02:26 What Is “Love Has Won”?

        04:09 From Community to Cult

        06:11 The Origins: Amy Carlson’s Intentions

        09:47 Andrew’s Journey Begins

        11:08 Searching for Meaning: Why People Join

        15:41 Missing Self-Love and Authenticity

        17:42 Manipulation & Control Tactics

        18:57 Patterns in Cult Dynamics

        23:51 Daily Life Inside the Cult

        27:46 Recruitment and Indoctrination Process

        30:26 Cult Hierarchy

        33:10 Andrew’s Inner Conflict: Amy vs. “Mother God”

        40:51 How Media Portrayed Amy Carlson

        43:16 Behind the Persona: Why Amy Became “Mother God”

        48:19 Miguel Lamboy: The "Hidden Hand"

        56:03 Andrew vs. Miguel: The Proxy War

        58:06 Challenging Amy’s Delusions

        01:05:37 Descent into Darkness: Cult’s Final Days

        01:13:23 Did Resistance Make Things Worse?

        01:16:29 The Consequences of Leaving “Love Has Won”

        01:23:34 Redefining Love and Trust

        01:28:18 Amy’s Death: Tragedy & Questions Unanswered

        01:42:48 Amy: Victim or Perpetrator?

        01:47:36 Final Words to Amy

        01:49:00 Why Andrew Speaks Out

        01:55:59 Final Thoughts

         

        ANDREW-RYAN PROFACI LINKS:

        Andrew's Website & Books

        Andrew's Instagram

        Andrew's LinkedIn

         

        CONTACT LINKS:

        Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

         

        This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

         

        2 hr 1 min
      10. #42 - Couples Therapist: How to Feel Truly Alive in Your Relationship | Dr. Bruce Chalmer

        After decades of guiding couples through their most challenging moments, Dr. Bruce Chalmer understands what truly brings relationships to life. With a deeply personal journey from statistics to psychology, Bruce discovered that helping couples navigate intimacy, stability, and the complexities of forgiveness wasn’t just a profession. It was a calling.

        In our conversation, Bruce explores profound insights on what makes relationships thrive or fail. He thoughtfully challenges common assumptions, offering the provocative question: “Do you feel alive in your relationship?” Bruce delves into why many couples drift apart, becoming roommates instead of romantic partners, and how they can rekindle lost connections. We also explore how infidelity, while deeply traumatic, can paradoxically create opportunities for renewed intimacy and trust.

        This episode is a meditation on the meaning of commitment, why marriage matters very deeply, and how embracing the discomfort of honesty can lead couples toward genuine fulfillment and emotional closeness.

        Thank you for listening.

         

        SHOW LINKS:

        Support the Show on: Patreon

        Listen to the Podcast on: YouTube | Apple | Spotify

        Follow us on: X | Reddit | Instagram | LinkedIn

         

        OUTLINE:

        00:00 Introduction

        01:55 Discovering a Calling in Relationship Therapy

        04:13 Career Transitions and Finding Purpose

        06:04 Couples Therapy vs. Relationship Therapy: Clarifying Terms

        07:55 Coaching vs. Therapy: The Real Differences

        09:46 How Couples Therapy Actually Works

        12:34 Marriage as a Path to Growth

        17:28 Why Marriage Rates Are Declining

        21:53 Cultural and Economic Reasons Behind Fewer Marriages

        29:22 Why We Still Romanticize Marriage

        31:52 Stability vs. Intimacy in Relationships

        39:02 Emotional Bank Accounts in Marriage

        41:20 Why Being Annoyed is Actually Good

        45:10 Understanding the True Value of Marriage

        51:16 The Difference Between a Contract and a Covenant

        56:33 The Psychological Damage of Infidelity

        01:00:06 Forgiveness, Trust, and Moving Forward

        01:09:35 Why Faith is Essential in Relationships

        01:12:03 Are Humans Biologically Monogamous?

        01:20:41 How Do I Know if I’m a Good Partner?

        01:32:45 How Can You Tell if a Marriage is Fundamentally Healthy?

        01:34:43 When Relationships Feel Like Roommates

        01:40:36 Reaching Heaven by Passing Through Hell

        01:51:31 When to Seek Couples Therapy

        01:58:09 What Relationships Truly Represent

        02:05:44 Final Thoughts

         

        BRUCE CHALMER LINKS:

        Bruce's Website & Books

        Couples Therapy in Seven Words Podcast (Apple)

        Couples Therapy in Seven Words Podcast (Spotify)

         

        CONTACT LINKS:

        Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

         

        This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

        2 hr 9 min
      11. #41 - Former Secret Service Agent: The Psychology of Interrogating Evil | Brad Beeler

        What does true evil look like? And how do you confront it face-to-face? In this raw conversation with Brad Beeler, who served as a Special Agent for the United States Secret Service for 25 years, we explore his extraordinary career confronting humanity’s darkest crimes, especially those involving children. Brad reveals a rarely-seen side of the United States Secret Service, reflecting deeply on his experiences as a polygraph examiner, where he faced some of the most malicious individuals imaginable.

        In our conversation, we also discuss:

        • Why empathy can become a crucial weapon in interrogations, even with society’s worst criminals.
        • How international cooperation enabled Brad and his team to crack complex child exploitation cases.
        • The subtle psychological strategies used to identify deception, gain trust, and ultimately reveal truth.
        • The chilling realities of interacting with truly evil individuals, and what Brad learned about the darkest corners of human behavior.
        • Brad’s story is profoundly human, exploring the complex layers of morality, ethical boundaries, and personal resilience required to confront humanity’s most troubling personalities.

          Thank you for listening.

           

          EPISODE LINKS:

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          OUTLINE:

          00:00 Introduction

          02:19 Brad’s Most Proud Career Achievement

          03:09 Secret Service Beyond Presidential Protection

          05:31 Future of Secret Service Investigations

          06:55 Inside the Trump Assassination Attempts

          10:22 Debunking Trump Assassination Conspiracies

          14:21 Conspiracy Theories and Media Polarization

          16:53 Strategies for Distinguishing Truth from Falsehood

          20:03 Building Trust and Rapport

          23:38 The Role of Empathy in Criminal Investigations

          41:58 The Psychological Cost of Interviewing Criminals

          46:13 Combating Child Exploitation: Global Collaboration

          49:00 Navigating Legal Complexities in International Law Enforcement

          50:32 Four Key Behavioral Analysis Questions

          01:00:12 Detecting Deception in Interviews

          01:15:34 Negotiation Techniques: Tactical Empathy & Body Language

          01:28:38 Recognizing Manipulation and Assessing Intentions

          01:33:00 Does True Evil Exist?

          01:40:57 Brad’s Perspective on Humanity

          01:44:14 Overcoming Personal and Professional Setbacks

          01:46:32 “Tell Me Everything”: Brad’s Upcoming Book

          01:47:36 Final Thoughts

           

          BRAD BEELER LINKS:

          Brad's LinkedIn

          Brad's Instagram 

           

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          Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

           

          This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

          1 hr 50 min
        • #40 - Personal Growth Coach: Face the Fear of Being Misunderstood | Kristan Swan

          In a vulnerable and deeply reflective conversation, personal growth coach Kristan Swan and Jeffrey delve into a quiet fear that most of us carry: the anxiety about being misunderstood or misrepresented by others. Through candid storytelling and authentic introspection, Kristan shares how the shadows of past experiences and the fear of judgment often hinder our ability to form meaningful connections and trust in relationships.

          The episode moves organically through themes of nostalgia, self-awareness, curiosity, and spirituality, exploring how each plays a role in our perceptions of self and our courage to authentically engage with others. This is a conversation without a clear angle, yet circles around how to navigate conversations and relationships with honesty and genuine empathy.

          Thank you for listening.

           

          SHOW LINKS:

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          Follow us on: X | Reddit | Instagram | LinkedIn

           

          OUTLINE:

          00:00 Introduction

          05:31 The Problem With Asking “What Do You Do?”

          07:37 Societal Undervaluation of Motherhood

          13:49 The Human Need for Connection

          15:26 Embracing Spontaneous Conversations

          24:20 Polarization and the Desire for Belonging

          26:57 Why We Struggle to Change Our Minds

          34:42 Navigating Opposing Truths

          36:11 The Danger of Nostalgia

          54:56 Defining Nostalgia

          01:01:19 The Nature of Spirituality

          01:08:36 Secular Spirituality and Trusting Yourself

          01:17:38 Allowing Yourself to Feel Fully

          01:25:37 Loneliness and the Need to Be Heard

          01:33:47 What Do You Love About Life?

          01:34:51 Final Thoughts

           

          KRISTAN SWAN LINKS:

          Kristan's Website

           

          CONTACT LINKS:

          Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

           

          This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

          1 hr 38 min
        • #39 - Philosophy Podcaster: The Paradox of Free Will and Evil | Joel Bouchard

          Joel Bouchard, philosophy podcaster and author of From Nowhere to Nothing, joins me for an intellectually intense exploration into some of life’s deepest philosophical dilemmas. In this episode, Joel skillfully unpacks intricate issues like the nature of good and evil, whether humans are inherently moral beings, and if true free will even exists.

          In our conversation, we talk about:

          • Why free will might be more limited than you think.
          • The hidden paradox within the concept of an all-knowing, all-good deity and the existence of evil.
          • How humans naturally strive to make order from chaos, both externally in the world and internally in their minds.
          • The surprising psychology behind why people struggle with discipline and sticking to personal decisions.
          • Whether morality is inherently programmed or learned from our environment, relationships, and experiences.
          • Thank you for listening.

             

            SHOW LINKS:

            Support the Show on: Patreon

            Listen to the Podcast on: YouTube | Apple | Spotify

            Follow us on: X | Reddit | Instagram | LinkedIn

             

            OUTLINE:

            00:00 Introduction

            02:12 Who Is Joel Bouchard?

            03:53 What Philosophy Actually Is

            07:09 Implicit vs Explicit Philosophy

            10:09 Is Life Worth Living?

            13:40 Religion, Atheism, and Nihilism

            17:21 Hedonism and Absurdism

            21:17 The Psychology of Belief

            28:08 A Personal Story of Loss

            31:50 Symbolism and Rituals in Human Life

            39:45 The Ethical Debate Around Pets

            45:52 Defining Good and Evil

            51:06 Why Does Evil Exist?

            01:13:15 Free Will vs Limited Will

            01:25:14 Where Does Consciousness Come From?

            01:29:37 The Nature of Conscience

            01:47:00 Is Life Deterministic or Not?

            02:00:12 The Magpie and Meaningful Coincidences

            02:11:57 Final Thoughts & Outro

             

            JOEL BOUCHARD LINKS:

            From Nowhere to Nothing Podcast (Spotify)

            From Nowhere to Nothing Podcast (Apple)

             

            CONTACT LINKS:

            Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

             

            This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

            2 hr 15 min
          • #38 - Narcissism Expert: The Hidden Dynamics of Narcissism and Empathy | Dr. Sterlin Mosley

            Is everyone suddenly a narcissist, or are we misusing the term? Dr. Sterlin Mosley, Professor of Human Relations and author of The Narcissist in You and Everyone Else, dives deep into the misunderstood realms of narcissism and empathy. Through an eye-opening conversation, Sterlin reveals why our culture casually labels selfish behaviors as narcissistic, and why real narcissism goes much deeper, intertwining with empathy. Or rather, the lack of it.

            In our conversation, you’ll discover:

            1. Why modern society sees NARCISSISM as a PERSONALITY TYPE instead of a nuanced SPECTRUM of behaviors.
            2. How narcissistic traits form EMOTIONAL ARMOR protecting a hidden, VULNERABLE core.
            3. The critical difference between EMPATHY and SYMPATHY, including four surprising types of empathy you never knew existed.
            4. Proven STRATEGIES for spotting and dealing with narcissists both at home and at work.
            5. How EMPATHY can be developed, and why COGNITIVE EMPATHY may be the key to healthier relationships.
            6. Thank you for listening.

               

              EPISODE LINKS:

              Buy Center of the Universe (Book)

              Buy The Narcissist in You and Everyone Else (Book)

               

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              SHOW LINKS:

              Support the Show on: Patreon

              Listen to the Podcast on: YouTube | Apple | Spotify

              Follow us on: X | Reddit | Instagram | LinkedIn

               

              OUTLINE:

              00:00 Introduction

              01:10 Who is Sterlin Mosley?

              04:41 The Narcissist Label in Modern Society

              08:37 Breaking Down the 27 Types of Narcissists

              12:24 How to Identify a Narcissist: Common Misunderstandings

              20:11 Strategies for Dealing with Different Narcissists

              27:57 Do Narcissists Know They’re Narcissists?

              35:49 Healthy Narcissism Explained

              39:54 Is Narcissism a Choice?

              47:47 Can Narcissism Be Cured or Managed?

              52:53 Empathy vs. Sympathy: Clarifying the Differences

              58:24 Narcissism, Envy, and Power Dynamics

              01:04:11 Understanding Empathy: Definitions and Nuances

              01:10:20 Cognitive Empathy and Human Connection

              01:19:39 Practical Steps to Develop Your Empathy

              01:24:24 Final Thoughts & Outro

               

              STERLIN MOSLEY LINKS:

              Sterlin's LinkedIn

              Sterlin's Instagram

               

              CONTACT LINKS:

              Click here to come on the podcast, share feedback, ask a question, or reach out for any other reason.

               

              This episode has been co-produced by Kate van Leeuwen.

               

              1 hr 26 min

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