Today’s conversation has been a long time coming because it is something that we’ve talked a lot about in the past but we’ve never really taken the time to fully dive in on this subject. And that’s the idea of how an introvert can make adult friendships. 
 Our guest, Jessica Pan, is a journalist and the author of the book Sorry I’m Late, I Didn’t Want to Come. She is also a self-proclaimed introvert who took a year of her life to explore what being more extroverted might be like. If you too are in the position where you want to engage with more people, make new friends, or speak up more at work - she has some really valuable tips throughout this episode. 
 We cover everything from defining the difference between an introvert and an extrovert to where to find other introverts who are also looking to meet new friends. Jessica shares whether or not she thinks being an introvert has to do with how you were raised and if she thinks you can change this personality trait. If you are in the beginning steps of trying to expand yourself, Jessica coaches you through three steps you can take to put yourself out there and meet new people! 
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221. Jessica Pan on Making Friendships as an Introvert

As women, we are constantly comparing ourselves to others. But your life isn't supposed to look like hers! Being your best self means standing firm in your decisions and always being willing to grow with a purpose. Amy and Abby get vulnerable and real with an honest look into the challenges and triumphs we all face. Every woman listening gets the opportunity to choose what life looks like for HERself.

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Parenting

Making new friends in our 30’s and 40’s can be tricky, especially as moms. Today, we have Danielle Bayard Jackson on the show to talk with us about how to maintain close friends while nurturing the surface level ones at the same time. Danielle is the friendship expert on Bumble’s new app; Bumble for Friends. She is here to share everything from what to do if your partner doesn’t get along with one of your friends to ideas on how to find those deep friendship connections if that’s what you're seeking. 
 What is more important - the quality of the friendships you have or the quantity? Danielle gets into how many deep friendships we can sustain at a time but also pushes us to not discount the “weaker” ties that we have. She explains the pros and cons of both. And what are we supposed to do when those feelings of being left out creep in? Danielle offers some great tips on what you can do if loneliness seems to be a factor in your life right now. 
 We know that many of you are moms and this can be one of the hardest stages to make or maintain friendships. But the value that they bring to your life is so rich. It’s not too late to find those deep connections. Be intentional with the new people you meet. Put in some effort and remind yourself that these types of relationships are going to take time and work! 
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232. Dr. Danielle Bayard Jackson With the Power of Female Friendship

Are you working on forming habits that will lead to positive behavior change? What’s the difference between a behavior change and an actual habit? Today, our guest Robyn Conley Downs, joins us to speak on all things habits! When it comes to forming new habits maybe you fall into the all or nothing category? Or perhaps you compare yourself too much or have that perfectionistic mindset? Well, Robyn is here to give you strategies that you can implement right away no matter what stage of habit formation you are currently in. 
 Wanting to live a healthier lifestyle but not knowing where to start can be overwhelming. Robyn explains the power that momentum can have when we start small. She also reminds us to give ourselves credit for how far we have come. Robyn explains what a purpose habit is and why it is a key piece to the puzzle.  
 Are you one to focus on the outcome of a goal rather than the process? Robyn shares what shifting your goals to process goals versus outcome goals can do for you. She also breaks down the 80/20 rule and talks about the impact that becoming brilliant at the basics can have on your life.  

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231. Simplify Your Life with Robyn Conley Downs

In the past so many of you have requested more podcast episodes that are aimed towards dads. This one does just that. Our guest, Michael Perry, is a husband, dad of two young boys, and the founder of tech startup and household organization app Maple - which stands for Make All Parents Lives Easier. 
 It is easy to hear Michael’s passion for his work. He talks about his values and how they show up both in and out of his household. Michael touches on how he and his wife share the load and the responsibilities he takes on as a father. He also offers tips on how to empower your partner to step up more and share more of the work that comes with parenting.  
 If you’ve implemented different strategies and systems to try to improve how your household functions but it doesn’t seem to be working, Michael offers suggestions on how a simple conversation about things can make the world of difference. We also know that at times, it can feel like we and our partner are giving each other the leftover version of ourselves. Michael touches on how we can bring the best version of ourselves to our families and how that might mean not giving 100% at work all the time. 
 We know this episode is going to really resonate with our male listeners so be sure to share this one with your partner! 
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230. Managing Family Life Like a Team with Michael Perry

Are you in a phase of your relationship where your partner feels more like a roommate? We know this is a challenge that many of our listeners in this community face. Today we are excited to have Sheina Schochet of @loveafterbaby back on the show. If you haven’t already, be sure to go back and listen to episode 170 when we first had Sheina on. 
 Today’s discussion is infused with so many tips on everything from what to do if your partnership doesn’t feel like it’s in a strong place to some actions you can take if your partner isn’t open to going to therapy. Since Sheina’s last visit on the show, she has become a Gottman Bringing Home Baby educator and the insights she’s gained from this are tangible throughout our conversation. 
 What we want you to walk away with from our discussion with Sheina is that being in a rut in your relationship is super common and it’s something that isn’t talked about enough. So if you’re feeling like you are in a low place right now, tune into this episode to learn how to reconnect with your partner and get back to a place where you are able to find the friendship & intimacy in your relationship again.  
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229. My Partner Feels Like a Roommate, Now What? with Sheina Schochet from @loveafterbaby

This episode with Dr. Gloria Han is all about mindfulness. Gloria is a clinical psychologist but today we focus on how simple mindfulness can be yet at the same time, it’s not easy. Gloria gives us lots of ways we can plug mindfulness into our daily lives that will allow us to be more present and get more enjoyment out of this life. 
 When we think about mindfulness we might think that it needs to be an uninterrupted time of meditating. Gloria explains how this isn’t true. She goes into details about how it can be something that we practice all day long and explains the three skills of mindfulness, including examples of each. She also gives us examples of things we can do that will only take 5-10 minutes but can have a huge impact.  
 There are both mental and physical benefits of mindfulness. Gloria talks about how the mind isn’t separate from the body and how the well being of the two are inextricably linked. She also differentiates between when judgment is good versus when it can be a negative thing and how living too far in the past or future can be detrimental to our minds. 
 Finally, if you’re interested in how mindfulness can be beneficial to your kids, Gloria shares her favorite tools she uses as a pediatric pain psychologist to help children become more aware of their well-being. 
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221. Jessica Pan on Making Friendships as an Introvert

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