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What is the church missing when it comes to singleness, and what would it actually look like to get it right? In this episode of the Jesus Over Everything podcast, Lisa Whittle sits down with storyteller, singles ministry advocate, and author Sekou Browne for one of the most honest and needed conversations about dating and singleness in the church. Sekou unpacks why physical and relational chemistry is not unspiritual, what the gender imbalance in the church is doing to single men and women, why telling singles to “just stop looking” is bad theology, and what the church could learn from Ruth and Naomi about showing up for the people who want to be married. Whether you are single, married with single friends, or a church leader trying to figure out how to serve your congregation well, this conversation will both challenge and encourage you.
Listen in to learn more:
(01:41) Why married people are more out of touch with dating in 2026 than they realize
(04:42) Why chemistry (physical and relational) is not unspiritual and why it matters for a lasting marriage
(11:25) The things we say to single people: well-meaning, but are they helpful or harmful?
(15:22) What singles actually need and why presence matters more than answers
(18:00) How social media has fundamentally changed how we date and how we see ourselves
(21:50) FOMO and the lie that unlimited options are actually out there
(22:37) Why single women are quietly leaving the church (and what’s driving it)
(26:10) Does celebrating marriage have to mean neglecting singles? How to hold both well
(29:46) What the story of Ruth and Naomi teaches us about building a connection culture in the church
(36:31) Why singles are going to therapists and coaches instead of the church
(38:10) What church leaders need to understand about long-term singleness
(40:29) Sekou’s last word on Jesus
Mentioned in the Episode:
Novel — Coming Up Short by Sekou Browne: https://www.sekoubrowne.com/books
One-on-One Coaching with Lisa: https://www.lisawhittle.com/coaching-with-lisa
Invite Lisa to Speak: https://www.lisawhittle.com/speaking
Connect with Sekou Browne:
Website: https://www.sekoubrowne.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/koubrowne/?hl=en
Substack: https://yokednewsletter.substack.com/
Join the Coming Up Short Early Reader Team: https://www.sekoubrowne.com/coming-up-short-reader-team
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
The Jesus Over Everything podcast exists for one reason: honest, unhurried conversations about what it actually looks like to put Jesus first: in your relationships, your doubts, your big questions, and the ordinary and complicated moments of everyday life. This brand new season brings more of exactly that. More real talk. More wisdom from people who have lived it. More of the conversations you didn’t know you needed until you were twenty minutes in and couldn’t stop listening.
Kicking off the season is one of Lisa’s oldest and most beloved podcast guests: Annie F. Downs, who Lisa credits as her very first interview on Jesus Over Everything. A lot has changed since then. Annie just got engaged, is about to share a home for the first time, and has written a book about the very thing she spent decades living: what happens when you stop letting fear, regret, and the voice of “I can’t” make decisions for you.
This conversation goes everywhere, and all of it is worth it.
Listen in to learn more:
(01:32) Giving ourselves permission to be amateurs and extending grace to others
(06:34) Getting married won’t solve all your problems and what Annie discovered about falling in love at 46
(08:08) Do we underestimate the choice of marriage?
(11:46) What we don’t understand about dating in 2026
(15:13) How married friends can better support the single people in their lives
(20:00) How do we respond responsibly to regret without letting it define us?
(25:36) Why hope is crucial to keep dreaming
(30:19) The practicality of dreams: how to tell painful truth in loving ways
(36:50) Crucial questions to ask ourselves about how we hide our bodies
(39:05) Do we suffer from “Christian martyrdom syndrome?”
(41:02) The privileged conversation, and why boldness is still the call
(44:31) Annie’s last word: is Jesus worth it?
Mentioned in the Episode:
Book — Don’t Let That Hold You Back by Annie F. Downs: https://www.anniefdowns.com/dont-let-that-hold-you-back
Book — God Knows by Lisa Whittle: https://www.lisawhittle.com/godknows
Invite Lisa to Speak: https://www.lisawhittle.com/speaking
Connect with Annie F. Downs:
Website: anniefdowns.com
Instagram: instagram.com/anniefdowns ; instagram.com/thatsoundsfunpodcast
Facebook: facebook.com/anniefdowns
X: x.com/anniefdowns
YouTube: youtube.com/@AnnieFDownsTSF
TikTok: tiktok.com/@anniefdownstsf
Podcasts: That Sounds Fun ; Let’s Read the Gospels ; Annie's miniBFF Podcast
TV Show: I Gotta Ask with Annie F. Downs
Online Community: Single Purpose League
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
What do you do when your voice is misunderstood, or when the pressure to stay silent feels louder than the call to speak? In this final episode of the Jesus Over Everything Summer Reset series, Lisa Whittle sits down with New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and self-described "fire-breathing preacher" Lisa Bevere for a conversation that is as timely as it is convicting. From a major cross-country move to going gray to navigating the tension between the fear of man and the fear of God, Lisa Bevere speaks with the hard-won clarity of a woman who has learned to hold fast to what is true when culture makes that costly. Rooted in Matthew 10 and a sobering William Booth quote from the founding of the Salvation Army, this conversation is essential listening for anyone who has ever felt the pressure to shrink, go quiet, or wonder whether their voice still matters.
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(01:00) Lisa Bevere shares about the morning she thought she had blown up her life
Mentioned in the Episode:
Connect with Lisa Bevere:
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
How do we honor people well who aren't living our same reality? In this Summer Reset episode of the Jesus Over Everything podcast, Lisa Whittle takes on the assumptions, stereotypes, and casual phrases that quietly communicate to single people in the church that their life is somehow less complete, and to married people that everyone shares their experience. From the well-meaning Instagram post telling single friends to "get yourself a husband who..." to the thoughtless question asking parents if they're planning more children, Lisa makes the case that we are far more self-absorbed in our conversations than we realize, and that the church can and should do better. Rooted in Matthew 28:19 and a clear-eyed look at what our highest call actually is, this episode is for the single person who has felt unseen, the married person who didn't realize how they were landing, and anyone who wants to love the people around them with more intention.
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Mentioned in the Episode:
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
What does it mean to truly draw near to God? Not as a method or a spiritual technique, but as a settled confidence in who he is and how he feels about you? In this Summer Reset episode of the Jesus Over Everything podcast, Lisa Whittle sits down with author, speaker, and renowned radio host Susie Larson for a conversation rooted in Susie's book, Closer Than Your Next Breath. Susie draws on the story of the Israelites, brain science, her own 30-year battle with chronic illness, and the transforming power of pondering God's love to make the case that the presence of God is not a feeling to chase. It is a reality to inhabit. For anyone navigating hard circumstances, carrying the weight of a complicated story, or wondering whether their prayers are reaching God's ears, this conversation is a reminder that goodness is coming, and that a settled heart will know it when it arrives.
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Mentioned in the Episode:
Connect with Susie Larson:
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
You may have heard it said: "Jesus may be in your heart, but grandpa is in your bones." It's a statement that captures something real about family history and its hold on us, but is it actually true? And is it biblical? In this Summer Reset episode of the Jesus Over Everything podcast, Lisa Whittle takes on one of the most talked-about and least-understood topics in Christian culture: generational sin. Drawing from personal Bible study, scientific research on epigenetic inheritance, and her own family history, Lisa unpacks what the Bible actually says (and doesn't say) about generational sin, what we have the power to change, and why the blood of Jesus is a stronger force than any family bloodline.
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Mentioned in the Episode:
Bible Study – God Knows by Lisa Whittle: https://www.lisawhittle.com/godknows
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
What if the missing piece in every body conversation you've ever had wasn't a new program, a better routine, or the right expert, but a theological foundation you never knew you were missing? In this special Summer Reset episode of the Jesus Over Everything podcast, we're sharing something a little different: a conversation that was so good, we had to bring it here. This is the premiere episode of Season 11 of The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast, where Lisa co-hosted alongside Candace for a full season dedicated to body, soul, and faith. In it, Lisa introduces the concept of whole body theology: a biblical framework that reframes how we see ourselves not as projects to fix, but as whole persons created for God's glory. Both women get vulnerable about their own long and complicated histories with body image and disordered eating, the exhaustion of conflicting health information, and what it actually looks like when the Word of God becomes the foundation, not just another tool in the stack. If you've ever felt exhausted by the endless cycle of health information, or wondered why knowing better has never quite been enough, this conversation is for you. And if this episode resonates, the full season is waiting. Check out all 12 episodes on YouTube!
Listen in to learn more:
(08:41) Why Candace chose this theme, and the viral moment that started it all
(11:36) How Lisa's Body and Soul Bible study came to be and what it changed for her personally
(17:28) Lisa and Candace get vulnerable: their body stories, eating disorder history, and what shame taught them about themselves
(25:44) The exhaustion of diet culture, conflicting expert advice, and the needle that never stops moving
(31:15) The one kind of rest we're all craving (and why it isn't sleep)
(33:55) What is whole body theology?
(39:05) The glorious exchange: what Christ's incarnation has to do with how you see your body
(40:56) Listener questions: skincare, motivation to move, and practical starting points
Mentioned in the Episode:
Bible Study — Body and Soul by Lisa Whittle: https://www.lisawhittle.com/body
The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast, Season 11 (full season): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXPIFDUXHLUnAVeI8Frzg-T8zKnExvPL1
Invite Lisa to Speak: https://www.lisawhittle.com/speaking
Get the Whole Body Guide: https://www.lisawhittle.com/body-tips
Connect with Candace Cameron Bure:
Website: https://candacecbure.com
Instagram: @candacecbure
The Candace Cameron Bure Podcast Website: https://ccbpodcast.com
Podcast Instagram: @candacecameronburepodcast
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
Is self-care selfish or is neglecting yourself the real problem? Continuing the Summer Reset series on the Jesus Over Everything podcast, Lisa Whittle tackles one of the most loaded terms in modern culture and offers a distinction that changes everything: it's not whether you practice self-care, it's what the end goal of your self-care actually is. Lisa answers listener questions directly – including her personal take on Botox, lip injections, hair extensions, and eyelash enhancements – before getting to the heart of what she really wants to talk about: four red flags that signal self-care has crossed into self-obsession, and what it looks like when a Jesus follower takes care of herself for the right reasons.
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Mentioned in the Episode:
Book — Jesus Over Everything by Lisa Whittle: https://www.lisawhittle.com/joe
Invite Lisa to Speak: https://www.lisawhittle.com/speaking
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
Continuing the Summer Reset series on resetting your body, this conversation picks up where the last episode left off – not with behavior modification, but with the deeper question underneath it all: How do we actually see ourselves, and where did that story come from? Alisa Keeton has spent 35 years at the intersection of faith and wellness, and what she brings to this conversation isn't a program, it's a framework. Alisa unpacks the way chronic stress rewires the brain, the way childhood shame messages shape our relationship with food, and the way the body was designed not to be worshiped or punished. Lisa brings her own story to the conversation as well, including what God showed her about neglecting the body while serving Him with everything else. If you’re looking for a spiritually grounded, scientifically informed path toward genuine freedom in the body, this episode is for you!
Please note: This episode includes discussion of eating disorders and body image. It is not recommended for young or developing children.
Listen in to learn more:
(02:15) Alisa's vertigo wake-up call: what chronic stress does to the body
Mentioned in the Episode:
Book — The Body Revelation by Alisa Keeton: https://www.revelationwellness.org/TBR/
Connect with Alisa Keeton:
Website: https://alisakeeton.com
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
What do you see when you look in the mirror, and what story have you been telling yourself about your body? Continuing the Summer Reset series on the Jesus Over Everything podcast, Lisa Whittle steps into one of the most personal conversations she has ever had on the show, drawing from her own experience with disordered eating to offer a spiritual perspective on what it means to pursue genuine freedom in the body. Speaking not as a clinician but as a Bible teacher, Lisa identifies two specific ways we stay stuck, and the one question from John 5 that cuts to the heart of it all.
Please note: this episode contains a trigger warning for eating disorder content, including specific discussion of behaviors. It is not recommended for young or developing children.
Listen in to learn more:
Mentioned in the Episode:
Connect with Lisa:
Website: https://www.lisawhittle.com
Substack: https://letsbeclear.substack.com
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@lisawhittleofficial
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lisawhittle
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lisawhittleofficial
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