Jesus the Legend

Today we have a special guest! Benjamin McNair Scott is a school chaplain and Religious Studies teacher at St Catherine’s School in Bramley, Surrey, where he’s served for nearly 13 years. With a BA, MA, and PhD in Theology from King's College London, Benji is an ordained Anglican priest with a background in both parish ministry and secondary school teaching. He’s also the author of Apostles Today and most recently A Hope in Hell, a thoughtful and courageous exploration of hopeful Christian eschatology. Benji lives in England with his wife Cecilia and their four children.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend—a podcast where we’re doing our best to uncover the beauty and depth of God’s story, often in ways that surprise and transform us. I’m so happy you’re here today, because we’re dipping our toes into the book of Revelation… and we’re going to go all the way to the end because if you stop at the lake of fire, you miss something profound. In fact, I believe you’ll miss the heart of the whole thing. I’m guilty of doing it for many years… it’s like once I hit Chapter 20, my brain stopped taking in what God was saying.

For most of my Christian walk, I was mentally stuck at the great judgment… books being opened and names being read. So, I’m going to START there…. because that’s where the story seemed to end for me for so long.

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Today we have a very special guest—John Crowder. I’ve known John for years, and while he’s certainly stirred up controversy in some religious circles, I genuinely believe that if people would take the time to listen to him, get to know him, and hear his heart, they’d see that his deepest desire is for people to encounter Jesus in a real and transformative way.

My sense is that many of his critics haven’t taken the time to understand him. They hear one thing that offends them, make a snap judgment, and write him off. But that kind of quick dismissal often misses the heart behind the message—and in John’s case, that heart is all about Jesus.

John loves to push the envelope and provoke people to extreme joy, radical grace and contemplative wonder through the scandalous, liberating good news of humanity’s union with God in Jesus Christ. Based in Oregon with Lily, his wife of 23 years, and their children, John is an internationally recognized author, speaker and advocate of Trinitarian theology. John brings a Christological lens to his teaching, with openness to supernatural expression.

You can find him everywhere… all over Social Media, YouTube… his website is johncrowder.net… he's written tonnes of books… he speaks all over the world … he's got e-courses and t-shirts. Honestly, lob a ball with his name written on it in just about any direction and you'll find him.

Hope this chat blesses you… I know it did me… you guys are amazing!

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Today we have a very special guest—John Crowder. I’ve known John for years, and while he’s certainly stirred up controversy in some religious circles, I genuinely believe that if people would take the time to listen to him, get to know him, and hear his heart, they’d see that his deepest desire is for people to encounter Jesus in a real and transformative way.

My sense is that many of his critics haven’t taken the time to understand him. They hear one thing that offends them, make a snap judgment, and write him off. But that kind of quick dismissal often misses the heart behind the message—and in John’s case, that heart is all about Jesus.

John loves to push the envelope and provoke people to extreme joy, radical grace and contemplative wonder through the scandalous, liberating good news of humanity’s union with God in Jesus Christ. Based in Oregon with Lily, his wife of 23 years, and their children, John is an internationally recognized author, speaker and advocate of Trinitarian theology. John brings a Christological lens to his teaching, with openness to supernatural expression.

You can find him everywhere… all over Social Media, YouTube… his website is johncrowder.net… he's written tonnes of books… he speaks all over the world … he's got e-courses and t-shirts. Honestly, lob a ball with his name written on it in just about any direction and you'll find him.

Hope this chat blesses you… I know it did me… you guys are amazing!

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In this episode (Part 2 of 2), I continue my chat with Jason Clark – writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story Ministries. Jason’s passion is helping sons and daughters grow confident in the relentless, always-good love of their heavenly Father.

We talk about everything from rethinking old ideas about God to laughing through life’s wild ride of faith. Jason brings deep wisdom and a ton of heart... like a hot knife through bad theology.

He’s the author of God Is Not in Control, Prone to Love, Leaving and Finding Jesus, Surrendered and Untamed, and Untamed – and if that’s not enough, he also co-hosts the podcast Rethinking God with Tacos (yes, tacos – it’s a whole vibe).

Jason lives in North Carolina with his wife, Karen, and their three amazing kids.

Check out more from Jason at ⁠AFamilyStory.org⁠.

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In this episode (Part 1 of 2), I sit down with Jason Clark – writer, speaker, and lead communicator at A Family Story Ministries. Jason’s passion is helping sons and daughters grow confident in the relentless, always-good love of their heavenly Father.

We talk about everything from rethinking old ideas about God to laughing through life’s wild ride of faith. Jason brings deep wisdom and a ton of heart... like a hot knife through bad theology.

He’s the author of God Is Not in Control, Prone to Love, Leaving and Finding Jesus, Surrendered and Untamed, and Untamed – and if that’s not enough, he also co-hosts the podcast Rethinking God with Tacos (yes, tacos – it’s a whole vibe).

Jason lives in North Carolina with his wife, Karen, and their three amazing kids.

Check out more from Jason at ⁠AFamilyStory.org⁠.

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Hey everyone, welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today we're going to talk about something that has completely changed the way I read the Bible — it’s the role of the early church and church tradition. Now, before you roll your eyes and think, “Tradition? That sounds old and dusty,"... stick with me… Because what I’ve found is that far from being dusty… tradition and the voice of the early fathers is extremely important.

For a long time, I didn’t intentionally ignore the early church and its traditions — I simply didn’t know they existed. I was so wrapped up in my own bubble, my own lane, my own denomination, that it never even crossed my mind to ask, “Where did all of this come from?”

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Welcome back to Jesus the Legend. Today we’re talking about a topic that’s been on my heart for a while now—something that’s both fascinating and, honestly, really surprised me once I checked it out for myself. The title of this episode is "Scripture’s Silence on Hell - What the Bible Doesn’t Say." If your church background was anything like mine, you were probably taught that hell—a place of eternal fire and never ending torment—was a core part of the Christian faith. I was always under the impression it was clearly spelled out in the Bible, no questions asked. But what if I told you that when you actually crack open the scriptures, that picture starts to get fuzzy? What if the hell we’ve been imagining isn’t quite as biblical as we may have thought?

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Hey, everyone! Welcome back to Jesus the Legend, the podcast where we’re doing our best to dig deep into the wild, wonderful, and beautiful Gospel. 

Today, we’re diving into the consuming, heart-stirring fire we see all throughout Scripture—the fire of His love, His power, and His presence. But here’s the twist… it’s not a fire that torments forever, but one that transforms. So grab your coffee, settle in, and let’s get into it!

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Welcome to Jesus the Legend. Today’s episode is titled: We're All Universalists (But We Won’t Admit It).

Now before you start yelling, stick with me for a few minutes. It’s gonna be worth it.

What if I told you that, in many ways, we already think in universal terms without realizing it? When it comes to sin and the fall, we have no problem affirming its reach. We acknowledge that sin has affected everyone—that not a single person is exempt. We see evidence of brokenness everywhere. We believe, as Scripture says, that "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). We accept that the consequences of Adam’s fall have rippled through every corner of humanity.

But here’s the question: Why do we stop there? Why do we so easily affirm that sin in universal, yet hesitate to affirm the universal reach of redemption? If we can believe that the fall of one man, Adam, had cosmic consequences, why do we struggle to believe that the victory of one man, Jesus - the CREATOR OF THE UNIVERSE, is just as far-reaching—if not more?

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