Matt Vernon of Primate Jiu Jitsu is on the show to talk about owning an academy, coaching, competing, being a jiu jitsu dad and husband, phases of his learning evolution and much more. We also break down a controversial match that went viral in the BJJ community which took place right here in Arkansas. ****In the midst of moving studios, swapping to a new mac and changing a few settings in zoom, the first part of this recording was unfortunately lost. :( We still got a lot of great conversation in. **** UnraveledPodcast.com See the match we talk about here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAuaJf0Gv0s