This week on Messy Thoughts, we’re bringing you a chaotic, hilarious, and heartfelt Austin–San Antonio podcast crossover with the hosts of the JK But Gay Podcast — Jake Reyna-Casanova and Kendrick Vela. From the moment these four get in the room, the energy is pure mess (in the best way). We talk about how both podcasts started, navigating the intersection of Latino and LGBTQ identities, and what it’s like building community in spaces that sometimes don’t feel built for you. Jake and Kendrick share the story of how they met, how their friendship turned into a podcast, and why they felt a Latino gay voice was missing in podcasting. The conversation goes deep — from racism and microaggressions in queer spaces to the emotional realities of fostering children and the complicated relationship many of us have with family, identity, and culture. We also get into some lighter chaos: ✨ Kendrick spills the tea on his Emmy-winning meteorologist husband ✨ We debate gay spaces vs Latino spaces ✨ We play the iconic “Who’s Invited to the Latino Cookout?” game ✨ And of course… we end with a passionate breakdown of Beyoncé, Bad Bunny, Selena, and the cultural impact of Latino icons If you love messy conversations, big laughs, and real talk about culture and identity — this crossover episode is for you. Go show love to JK But Gay Podcast and subscribe to both shows!

Messy Thoughts. Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. www.messythoughts.com

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