Messy Thoughts Episode 18. Season 2 of Messy Thoughts kicks off exactly how it should: loud, unfiltered, wildly funny, and just a little bit educational.
BJ and LeBron are back after a brief hiatus and immediately spiral into chaotic catch-ups — from blackout brunches and dangerous margaritas to messy New Year’s Eve parties, near house fires, and avoiding people in shared social circles. From there, things escalate quickly.
The duo introduces an instant classic game: “Is It Gay or Is It Straight?” — rating everything from Chili’s on 45th, TJ Maxx, Beyoncé concerts, and Fourth Street in Austin to Puerto Vallarta, Miami, and even the Republican National Convention on a very scientific 1–5 “gay scale.”
In honor of Black History Month, the conversation shifts to personal memories, first Black teachers, school experiences, and hilarious childhood stories — including a truly unforgettable Black History Month play gone wrong. BJ and LeBron also give flowers where they’re due, spotlighting legends like Loretta Devine and civil rights strategist Bayard Rustin, while unpacking how queerness has always existed in the movement, even when it was pushed into the background.
Then… it’s time to get into the real mess. The second half of the episode dives deep into gay culture discourse: jockstraps. Are they an outfit? A tool? A lifestyle? The hosts debate ratings, origins, locker room trauma, dark rooms, thong vs. jockstrap politics, Andrew Christian’s downfall, lingerie on men, and why gays are somehow both hyper-sexual and deeply practical at the same time.
It’s funny, raunchy, thoughtful, nostalgic, and exactly the kind of chaos you expect when the thoughts are messy — but the conversation is very real.
🎧 New episodes drop weekly.
📞 Call in with your own messy thoughts at 512-953-3084.
📺 Subscribe, comment, and tell your messy friends.
Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis.
www.messythoughts.com