Katrina Kibben creates impact on people. They know that job post strategies haven't changed in the last 100+ years, resulting in 100-year-old biases. As the world’s leading expert in writing better job postings, they teach companies how to remove bias, why adding pronouns matter, and about creating more inclusive candidate experiences. And, in this episode, Kat talks about being a ninja and John Sumser tells us about his short-lived career as a door-to-door Santa Claus. You’ll have to listen to hear more.