Episode 11: 23 July, 2024

All the things mentioned in this episode:

• Barney Zwartz’s Age article, “We don’t have to like our leaders to want them to be wise.”
• Life & Faith’s two-part series on the US election. Part one with Michael Wear here. Part two with Darrell Bock here.
• Justine Toh’s Thinking Out Loud on evil. 
• Simon Smart’s newest book The End of Men?

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Producer: Allan Dowthwaite 

Assistant Producer: Clare Potts