Jeff was joined by former Speaker of the House, John Harris. Harris served in the Alaska Legislature from 1999 to 2011, where he represented Valdez. He served as Speaker from 2005 to 2009. Prior to that he served as Mayor of Valdez and was also on the Valdez City Council. He now works as a lobbyist. They discuss his time in the legislature, the current stale mate in the House, putting together an organization in the House, and working as a lobbyist.