Jeff was joined by John-Henry Heckendorn. He came to Alaska in 2012 to work on Andy Josephson's first campaign for State House. He later founded the political consulting firm Ship Creek Group. They discuss how he first came to Alaska, why he started Ship Creek Group, some of the candidates he worked with that ended up resigning from the Legislature, his time with former Governor Bill Walker, and his new job with Airbnb in San Francisco.