In this episode, I speak with John Watkins. John has over thirty years experience in consulting, coaching, designing, facilitating, researching, and evaluating in school and school district improvement efforts. Currently, he is Co-Director with Jal Mehta, Professor at Harvard, of the Deeper Learning Dozen, creating a community of practice for superintendents who are committed to the transformation of their districts to support equitable access to deeper learning. In this conversation, we discuss:

• Creating learning environments based on biodiversity, replicating nature to bring out our uniqueness and strengths;
• How learning is an embodied experience that requires action to be deep, because without action, learning dissipates;

• Ways we can go beyond the system we know, beyond school to liberate possibilities for learning as individuals and as a collective.

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