Brandon and Ro agree that ultimately Joker, is 1) not a comic book movie, 2) not remotely fitting as an "origin story " for the Clown Prince of Crime and 3) utterly misses the mark as a serious character study of Arthur Fleck despite there being potential for one hell-of-a story. Kriss was, of course, smugly unsurprised. The crew sat down to have a spoiler-free, yet highly opinionated talk about this one.