We start with a conversation filled with practical tools about games and gamification with educator, author and expert Jon Cassie of Game Level Learn. Then play along as Jon is subjected to The Five Minute Game Show where he has to determine whether the unusual games describes are Fact or Fantasy. Then listen to Micaela Blie's awesome story(Grand Slam winner on The Moth) about her gamified Oregon Trail lesson on In the Trenches. This episode is "sponsored" by Edu-Gamerama - a fake product we wish was real.