Veteran broadcaster and author Jon Faine joins Amy to discuss his fascinating new book, Apollo & Thelma: A True Tall Tale. Jon tells the astonishing true story of the world's strongest man Paul Anderson, also known as ‘The Mighty Apollo,' and his sister Thelma, a pioneering publican of the ‘Wanda Inn’ at Top Springs in the NT. As Jon was Apollo's lawyer, he reckons with his own story too. This book is many things – a memoir, a true tale, and a reflection on Australia's history and the fight for indigenous rights.