In this episode of Deep Ish, Jake sits down with singer-songwriter Jon Mullins to discuss marriage, long-distance dating, faith, miscarriage, friendship, and the moments that shape us most.

Jon shares the story of losing a pregnancy after years of believing they may never have children, the fear of trying again, and how a song written in the middle of the storm carried them through it. Along the way, we talk about showing up for people when life gets hard, why "What can I do for you?" matters more than "Let me know if you need anything," and how the people who stay present can change everything.

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