After growing up in Ann Arbor and attending the University of Michigan, Jon Oberheide and his partner Dug Song started their career as offensive security researchers.

They soon found that it’s really easy to break things in the security space but it's a lot harder to build something resilient.

Jon joins us on this episode of The Founder Formula to share the story of their journey, and some of the simple solutions they were able to identify early on.

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