Jonathan Parra has designed over 4,500 paywalls — more than anyone on Earth. As the former Senior Designer at Superwall, he spent three years building paywalls that helped enterprise apps grow revenue by 20–30%. Now he's sharing the exact playbook.

In this episode of The Superwall Podcast, Joseph sits down with Jonathan to unpack what actually converts — and what just looks like it should. Watch the full episode here.

Here's what you'll learn:

• Why there's no perfect paywall — and the one simple layout that gets you 80% there
• The stripped-down paywall that beat a detailed comparison chart by 111%
• How cleaning up price packaging alone lifted conversions by 10%
• The "no commitment, cancel anytime" hack he puts on almost every paywall
• The gray hat drawer strategy that reframes yearly pricing as $0.76/week
• Why native Swift UI–style paywalls outperformed custom designs "by quite a long shot"
• The closed-loop app pattern behind the highest-converting paywalls
• Design tests vs. price tests — and why most app builders are testing the wrong thing first

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