In this crazy times the forward and tactical thinking of a chess grandmaster and a great humanitarian might help us a little.

This is the first part of a two part conversation. Topics included chess, ecology, technology, spirituality, religion and spirituality, the education meta crisis, post traumatic grown, the value of disequilibrium, the parables of Jesus, and the tiny elephant in the room: Coronavirus.

Bio: Dr. Jonathan Rowson is co-founder and Director of Perspectiva. He was until recently Director of the Social Brain Centre at the RSA where, over the course of six years, he authored a range of influential research reports on behaviour change, climate change and spirituality, and curated and chaired a range of related events.

Jonathan is an applied philosopher with degrees spanning a range of humanities and social sciences from Oxford, Harvard and Bristol Universities. In a former life he was a chess Grandmaster and British Champion (2004–6) and views the game as a continuing source of insight and inspiration.

He lives in Putney, London, with his wife Siva, an academic lawyer from South India and their two sons, Kailash and Vishnu. (source: https://www.systems-souls-society.com/people)